I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......

The Dude · 01-06-2020, 06:18 PM

I don’t know of anyone else available that would be any better next year. Our draft sucks and good QBs aren’t exactly falling off trees. I think Brees has another year in him. It’s not his play that’s dropping off, it’s his health. Something wasn’t right yesterday. Hill was in as a passer more than he had been all season and I think it was out of necessity because Brees got dinged up somehow.
I would like to see us use a two QB system for one year and see if we can steal a SB that way. Not a long term solution but may work for a year.
The following year TH can take over

WillSaints81 · 01-07-2020, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I don’t know of anyone else available that would be any better next year. Our draft sucks and good QBs aren’t exactly falling off trees. I think Brees has another year in him. It’s not his play that’s dropping off, it’s his health. Something wasn’t right yesterday. Hill was in as a passer more than he had been all season and I think it was out of necessity because Brees got dinged up somehow.
I would like to see us use a two QB system for one year and see if we can steal a SB that way. Not a long term solution but may work for a year.
The following year TH can take over

But can we actually go 13-3 three years in a row? If we don't get a first-round bye next year, it could be more of the same.

skymike · 01-07-2020, 12:49 AM

I think you guys need some Billy Joes, or Jim Everetts, or for those obsessed with fast legs, how bout a nice, dumb Vince Young? John Fourcade could run fast, too. How about a noodle-armed Steve Walsh?

Ya Spoilt.

Cam Newton, and his legs couldnt escape the Broncos. Nobody can play QB, when your line looks like silly putty.

But you want a runner. These are NFL defenses, honey. You're not playing Vanderbilt. Or Prairie View. You beat em out of the pocket using
your arm and your mind.

FAct time: We went 3-13 the last year we had anyone besides Brees at QB.

An aged Brees is still the best. He's still accurate. 90% of QB is half mental. He's smarter than anyone else who plays the game, including
Brady. And he can still outrun yall's Pillsbury asses, and throw the out pattern, which you cant do.

Yes, he makes too much money, unless he can block for himself. They all make
too much money. But open up a window. Some of yall need some air.

(Lets call my fav QB, Bobby out of retirement)

K Major · 01-07-2020, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

I think you guys need some Billy Joes, or Jim Everetts, or for those obsessed with fast legs, how bout a nice, dumb Vince Young? John Fourcade could run fast, too. How about a noodle-armed Steve Walsh?

Ya Spoilt.

Cam Newton, and his legs couldnt escape the Broncos. Nobody can play QB, when your line looks like silly putty.

But you want a runner. These are NFL defenses, honey. You're not playing Vanderbilt. Or Prairie View. You beat em out of the pocket using
your arm and your mind.

FAct time: We went 3-13 the last year we had anyone besides Brees at QB.

An aged Brees is still the best. He's still accurate. 90% of QB is half mental. He's smarter than anyone else who plays the game, including
Brady. And he can still outrun yall's Pillsbury asses, and throw the out pattern, which you cant do.

Yes, he makes too much money, unless he can block for himself. They all make
too much money. But open up a window. Some of yall need some air.

(Lets call my fav QB, Bobby out of retirement)

I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined.

Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted.

Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow.

A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again.

dam1953 · 01-07-2020, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined.

Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted.

Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow.

A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again.

Agree. Brees has made a career of "climbing the pocket" to buy time for receivers to get open and to find throwing lanes. The Vikings made sure there was no pocket to climb on Sunday.

saintsfan1976 · 01-08-2020, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined.

Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted.

Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow.

A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again.

The worst part is we had the answer in Taysom. Just as soon as we started moving the ball he was replaced with Brees and BOOM back to the old result.

Rell&Gold · 01-08-2020, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined.

Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted.

Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow.

A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again.

I mean we don't go deep that's not a secret, Having been going deep for a while. That Oline is the blame IDC what anyone says. The INT wasn't the best throw but the Safety made a better attempt on the ball than Ted Ginn did he's worthless body catcher. He doesn't jump he doesn't stretch out. If he actually attacks the ball it's Inc pass

blackangold · 01-08-2020, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

FAct time: We went 3-13 the last year we had anyone besides Brees at QB.

)

Real fact time: the Saints went 5-0 the last time Brees wasn’t the QB. This should lead you to think.. is it Brees or Payton?

Brees sucked without Payton, however Payton went 5-0 without Brees.

shawnkytonk · 01-08-2020, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Brees sucked without Payton

This just isn't true. He's definitely been more consistent obviously, but go back and look at his last two years in SD.

Rugby Saint II · 01-08-2020, 01:00 PM

It seems to me that Brees just had the best game in history recently. He's still setting all kind of records and out of those 29 passes several were beautifully thrown deep balls. Taysom is not the answer and neither is Teddy. Not if you want to win another Super bowl. You need a special QB and we've already got one. He can manage this game for several more years. I for one am not willing to give up on the best passer ever.....and that includes this season. This loss was not on Drew. It was on the team.

01-06-2020, 06:18 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... I don’t know of anyone else available that would be any better next year. Our draft sucks and good QBs aren’t exactly falling off trees. I think Brees has another year in him. It’s not his play that’s dropping off, it’s his health. Something wasn’t right yesterday. Hill was in as a passer more than he had been all season and I think it was out of necessity because Brees got dinged up somehow. I would like to see us use a two QB system for one year and see if we can steal a SB that way. Not a long term solution but may work for a year. The following year TH can take over
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01-07-2020, 12:07 AM	#2
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,276	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by The Dude I don’t know of anyone else available that would be any better next year. Our draft sucks and good QBs aren’t exactly falling off trees. I think Brees has another year in him. It’s not his play that’s dropping off, it’s his health. Something wasn’t right yesterday. Hill was in as a passer more than he had been all season and I think it was out of necessity because Brees got dinged up somehow. I would like to see us use a two QB system for one year and see if we can steal a SB that way. Not a long term solution but may work for a year. The following year TH can take over But can we actually go 13-3 three years in a row? If we don't get a first-round bye next year, it could be more of the same.

01-07-2020, 12:49 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... I think you guys need some Billy Joes, or Jim Everetts, or for those obsessed with fast legs, how bout a nice, dumb Vince Young? John Fourcade could run fast, too. How about a noodle-armed Steve Walsh? Ya Spoilt. Cam Newton, and his legs couldnt escape the Broncos. Nobody can play QB, when your line looks like silly putty. But you want a runner. These are NFL defenses, honey. You're not playing Vanderbilt. Or Prairie View. You beat em out of the pocket using your arm and your mind. FAct time: We went 3-13 the last year we had anyone besides Brees at QB. An aged Brees is still the best. He's still accurate. 90% of QB is half mental. He's smarter than anyone else who plays the game, including Brady. And he can still outrun yall's Pillsbury asses, and throw the out pattern, which you cant do. Yes, he makes too much money, unless he can block for himself. They all make too much money. But open up a window. Some of yall need some air. (Lets call my fav QB, Bobby out of retirement) neugey, Budsdrinker and Rugby Saint II like this.
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01-07-2020, 09:57 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by skymike I think you guys need some Billy Joes, or Jim Everetts, or for those obsessed with fast legs, how bout a nice, dumb Vince Young? John Fourcade could run fast, too. How about a noodle-armed Steve Walsh? Ya Spoilt. Cam Newton, and his legs couldnt escape the Broncos. Nobody can play QB, when your line looks like silly putty. But you want a runner. These are NFL defenses, honey. You're not playing Vanderbilt. Or Prairie View. You beat em out of the pocket using your arm and your mind. FAct time: We went 3-13 the last year we had anyone besides Brees at QB. An aged Brees is still the best. He's still accurate. 90% of QB is half mental. He's smarter than anyone else who plays the game, including Brady. And he can still outrun yall's Pillsbury asses, and throw the out pattern, which you cant do. Yes, he makes too much money, unless he can block for himself. They all make too much money. But open up a window. Some of yall need some air. (Lets call my fav QB, Bobby out of retirement) I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined. Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted. Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow. A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again. saintsfan1976, skymike and dizzle88 like this.

01-07-2020, 10:14 AM	#5
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by K Major I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined. Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted. Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow. A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again. Agree. Brees has made a career of "climbing the pocket" to buy time for receivers to get open and to find throwing lanes. The Vikings made sure there was no pocket to climb on Sunday. neugey and Rell&Gold like this.

01-08-2020, 06:38 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by K Major I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined. Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted. Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow. A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again. The worst part is we had the answer in Taysom. Just as soon as we started moving the ball he was replaced with Brees and BOOM back to the old result. K Major likes this.

01-08-2020, 11:49 AM	#7
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by K Major I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined. Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted. Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow. A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again. I mean we don't go deep that's not a secret, Having been going deep for a while. That Oline is the blame IDC what anyone says. The INT wasn't the best throw but the Safety made a better attempt on the ball than Ted Ginn did he's worthless body catcher. He doesn't jump he doesn't stretch out. If he actually attacks the ball it's Inc pass

01-08-2020, 08:25 AM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by skymike FAct time: We went 3-13 the last year we had anyone besides Brees at QB. ) Real fact time: the Saints went 5-0 the last time Brees wasn’t the QB. This should lead you to think.. is it Brees or Payton? Brees sucked without Payton, however Payton went 5-0 without Brees.

01-08-2020, 02:29 PM	#9
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by blackangold Brees sucked without Payton This just isn't true. He's definitely been more consistent obviously, but go back and look at his last two years in SD.

01-08-2020, 01:00 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... It seems to me that Brees just had the best game in history recently. He's still setting all kind of records and out of those 29 passes several were beautifully thrown deep balls. Taysom is not the answer and neither is Teddy. Not if you want to win another Super bowl. You need a special QB and we've already got one. He can manage this game for several more years. I for one am not willing to give up on the best passer ever.....and that includes this season. This loss was not on Drew. It was on the team. shawnkytonk likes this.
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