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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by skymike I think you guys need some Billy Joes, or Jim Everetts, or for those obsessed with fast legs, how bout a nice, dumb Vince Young? John Fourcade could run fast, too. How about a noodle-armed Steve ...
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by skymike
I hear you Mike but it's a mixed bag however Brees has declined.![]()
Good teams revamp in the playoffs. Vikes understood we were suspect up the middle and with an aging QB, often times it created a sack, loss of yards or in our case .. huge fumble. Did you notice how Vikes FS Harrison Smith came up closer instead of playing deep as he usually does? Zimmer knew that Brees no longer has the "zip/arm strength & couldn't beat us deep. When he did attempt to, it was intercepted. Vikes sent pressure right up the gut knowing that a non mobile QB would not be able to consistently escape. Saints were out coached with scheme and Zimmer knew our tendencies. I will say Sean Payton didn't help our QB out by not having a strong run game. Latavius Murray had 7 carries the entire ball game. Why did we sign this guy? It's the playoffs coach. There is no tomorrow. A 13-3 team at home in the playoffs should be advancing yet we are here ... again. |
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by K Major
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Agree. Brees has made a career of "climbing the pocket" to buy time for receivers to get open and to find throwing lanes. The Vikings made sure there was no pocket to climb on Sunday. |
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by burningmetal
After watching replays, that pass traveled 52 yards in the air. When it was let go, Ginn was in single coverage. Safety got there quick while ball was in the air.![]()
We shouldn't have to throw 52 yard passes. |
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by Budsdrinker
The problem is that, as I said, he put everything he had into that throw, and he had to put a very high arc on it to get it out there. That is an easy pick, every time.![]()
You absolutely have to have the threat of the deep pass, if you want the intermediate stuff to open up. That, or be a dominant running team. Payton abandons the run even when it's working. Except when he didn't have Brees and didn't feel the need to showcase his QB at the expense of doing what was best for the team. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by K Major
The worst part is we had the answer in Taysom. Just as soon as we started moving the ball he was replaced with Brees and BOOM back to the old result.
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by burningmetal
Watching the Patriots playoff game I found myself coveting an Edelman type player for Brees. Heck even the Niners have TWO wide receivers barely half as talented as Micheal Thomas but know how to work zones, get open and get YAC. ![]()
No WR on our roster can do that. If we had them, Brees's career would extend. |
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by nola_swammi
Gotta protect the QB to be able to protect the football that fumble was as much Ryan's fault as it was Drews
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by K Major
I mean we don't go deep that's not a secret, Having been going deep for a while. That Oline is the blame IDC what anyone says. The INT wasn't the best throw but the Safety made a better attempt on the ball than Ted Ginn did he's worthless body catcher. He doesn't jump he doesn't stretch out. If he actually attacks the ball it's Inc pass
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
It seems to me that Brees just had the best game in history recently. He's still setting all kind of records and out of those 29 passes several were beautifully thrown deep balls. Taysom is not the answer and neither is Teddy. Not if you want to win another Super bowl. You need a special QB and we've already got one. He can manage this game for several more years. I for one am not willing to give up on the best passer ever.....and that includes this season. This loss was not on Drew. It was on the team.
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