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ChrisXVI 02-25-2020 04:32 PM
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So we all know by now that the Saints will never shy away from trading future 1st or 2nd round picks to go get their guy. Is their a guy you would trade next year’s 1st rounder to go get?

For the record, I know it’s a terrible idea to trade future 1st’s for anything other than a QB, but the Saints don’t care.

I’m thinking if LB Isaiah Simmons fell to 10 or lower we could make a move a la the Steelers last year for Devin Bush. I’d be ok with that.

ChrisXVI 02-25-2020 04:52 PM
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This would be awesome! I’d be pretty happy.

MarchingOn 02-25-2020 07:08 PM
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Yes, think multiple WR draft picks. No, not in the 1st and maybe not in the 4th simply because it's a deep WR class.

Unfortunately, we did use #1 pick on a WR in the last deep class. Would've helped to get 2 as we see now.

K Major 02-25-2020 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 880624)
https://twitter.com/brenden_ertle/st...35778476597248

This would be awesome! I’d be pretty happy.
It would be. A legit talent alongside Michael Thomas is necessary and welcomed in New Orleans.

The WR position has been ignored far too long.

jeanpierre 02-26-2020 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880639)
It would be. A legit talent alongside Michael Thomas is necessary and welcomed in New Orleans.

The WR position has been ignored far too long.
To be fair, Payton & Co hasn't ignored the WR position - drafting Michael Thomas, Tre'Quan Smith; signing Ted Ginn and Cameron Meredith...

And what's happened is that when we've hit, we really hit big and when we missed, we really missed and it's manifested in quick playoff exits...

The problem is an organizational problem of assessment and acquisition where one man has too much weight in personnel decisions...

First, Saints Director of ProScouting Terry Fontenot and GM Mickey Loomis should geaux if either gave favorable reports on Ginn and Meredith; if Payton forced the moves, then why even have guys in token positions?

Second, as Chris aptly pointed out earlier, we should only be trading future ones for a franchise QB, which we've had already. Moving up as many times as we've had has limited draft opportunities for WRs...

Third, in the four moves mentioned for WRs, we've only hit on one, so obviously the talent evaluation process is still very flawed in the Payton Front Office...

jeanpierre 02-26-2020 01:59 AM
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I’m really starting to hate Burrow.
Nothing better than self-deprecating humour!

K Major 02-26-2020 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 880646)
To be fair, Payton & Co hasn't ignored the WR position - drafting Michael Thomas, Tre'Quan Smith; signing Ted Ginn and Cameron Meredith...
Since Michael Thomas came aboard in 16, we've drafted one (Tre Smith) WR right? Was not counting the Free Agent guys. Mike needs a "Robin" like the B Cooks days.

I look at the production of Dallas Michael Gallup (taken a few picks above Tre') & often wonder if he was ever on our draft board. He's killing it. At this point, anything we get from Tre is Lagniappe. Minimal improvement 3 years in. Keep in mind Taysom was more productive at the position for 2019 :rolleyes:.

We have a lot of un drafted (Hogan, Humphrey, Carr, Butler) guys that Brees can't turn into bona fide play makers anymore.

I for one will be elated if we go WR early in the draft. More weapons, more options, more problems for opposing defenses.

jeanpierre 02-26-2020 08:47 AM
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jeanpierre 02-26-2020 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880660)
Since Michael Thomas came aboard in 16, we've drafted one (Tre Smith) WR right? Was not counting the Free Agent guys. Mike needs a "Robin" like the B Cooks days.

I look at the production of Dallas Michael Gallup (taken a few picks above Tre') & often wonder if he was ever on our draft board. He's killing it. At this point, anything we get from Tre is Lagniappe. Minimal improvement 3 years in. Keep in mind Taysom was more productive at the position for 2019 :rolleyes:.

We have a lot of un drafted (Hogan, Humphrey, Carr, Butler) guys that Brees can't turn into bona fide play makers anymore.

I for one will be elated if we go WR early in the draft. More weapons, more options, more problems for opposing defenses.
Major, you know I agree we need someone opposite MT; Jared Cook was suppose to be that guy, but disappeared quite a bit; and the three other options have all busted...

Let me repeat my point - there were attempts to get that other guy, it's just the decision, process was wrong AND we didn't have the draft picks to make another (too much trading up)...

K Major 02-26-2020 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 880666)

Let me repeat my point - there were attempts to get that other guy, it's just the decision, process was wrong AND we didn't have the draft picks to make another (too much trading up)...[/B]
Sean Payton can't help himself at times perhaps.


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