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AsylumGuido 02-14-2020 02:10 PM

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In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed.

jeanpierre 02-14-2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 879907)
Wisconsin LB Zack Baun... Now this guy has my attention. He was a 3-4 OLB but showed tremendous agility and football IQ dropping back and playing in space. Some are saying he could thrive as a Lorenzo Alexander type who lines up as a 4-3 Sam LB who can also rush the passer in sub-packages.

Very much like Vince Biegel...

jeanpierre 02-14-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 879939)
In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed.

Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists...

ChrisXVI 02-14-2020 02:49 PM

Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 879939)
In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed.

Yes sir, and with Sheldon Rankins going into the last year of his deal I think D-Line depth is a sneaky need. This is a terrible draft class for edge rushers unfortunately.

jeanpierre 02-14-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 879945)
Yes sir, and with Sheldon Rankins going into the last year of his deal I think D-Line depth is a sneaky need. This is a terrible draft class for edge rushers unfortunately.

Well, in the overall perspective, the two previous years were rather unusual in the dearth of talent - they were truly special years for the position...

We unnecessarily move up in a deep DE draft for Davenport, a fine talent, but there's similar production and more GPs by players taken later in that draft...

As bad as the need for a WRz threat downfield to open the field up for Michael Thomas and Jared Cook, we don't need to move up in round 1 for a WR...

ChrisXVI 02-14-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 879940)
Very much like Vince Biegel...

That’s true. We don’t seem to have the ability to utilize those hybrid front seven players.

K Major 02-14-2020 03:00 PM

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Netane Muti - OG Fresno State

Not a sexy draft pick but we really need to improve in the trenches.

The Good : He's nasty, an animal, naturally powerful & moved D lineman against their will vs Bama as a freshman. Some have compared him to Quenton Nelson ... that's ridiculously high praise.

The Bad: He's injury prone, not durable, could miss a lot of games.
Did I mention he's injury prone? ....

K Major 02-14-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 879946)

As bad as the need for a WRz threat downfield to open the field up for Michael Thomas and Jared Cook, we don't need to move up in round 1 for a WR...[/B]

If this WR group is good as most scouts are saying, we can get one in later rounds. I hope we are targeting a O lineman ... early. We got our a** kicked in the trenches vs the Vikings.

Winning in the playoffs start in the trenches. Just imagine if another R Ramz falls to us late in the 1st round?

A big nasty please.

halloween 65 02-14-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 879941)
Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists...

Same thing he did when he was with the Pats. I wasn't one who loved this move in the first place.

AsylumGuido 02-14-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 879941)
Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists...

To me it appeared Brown was more effective against the run than the pass. Wasn't that pretty much his forte?


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