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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by turbo_dog Is that right? A cornerback who is 6'4", 250 ? What's his 40 time? Typo....

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Old 04-15-2020, 09:31 AM   #661
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Is that right? A cornerback who is 6'4", 250? What's his 40 time?
Typo.
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Old 04-15-2020, 10:30 AM   #662
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JP's Trending Up List of 2020 NFL Draft Prospects - Updated 2020/04/09

No. 24 (R1, 24) DE A.J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) CB C.J. Henderson, Florida; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 204 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) WR Jalen Reagor, TCU; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 206 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) LB Kenneth Murray, Oklahoma; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 238 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) RB Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin; Height: 5' 10", Weight: 226 lbs.


No. 56 (R2, 24) Traded to Miami Dolphins (C Erik McCoy)
No. 56 (R2, 24) CB Cameron Dantzler, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 188 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) TE Cole Kmet, Notre Dame; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) C Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 314 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) DT Justin Madubuike, Texas A & M; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 293 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) RB Clyde Edwards, LSU; Height: 5' 7", Weight: 207 lbs.

No. 88 (R3, 24) LB Logan Wilson, Wyoming; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 241 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) TE Harrison Bryant, Florida Atl; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 243 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) CB Bryce Hall, Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 202 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) RT Ezra Cleveland, Boise St.; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 311 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) RB A.J. Dillon, Boston College; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 247 lbs.


No. 130 (R4, 24) WR Antonio Gibson, Memphis; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 228 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) CB Reggie Robinson, Tulsa; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 202 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) LG Logan Stenberg, Kentucky; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 317 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) FS Kenny Robinson, XFL/West Virginia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 200 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) DE Kenny Willekes, Michigan St; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 262 lbs.[/I]

No. 169 (R5, 24) LG Ben Bredeson, Michigan; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 315 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) QB James Morgan, Florida Intíl; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 229 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) TE Colby Parkinson, Stanford; Height: 6' 7", Weight: 252 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) WR Stephen Guidry, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 201 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) NT Leki Fotu, Utah; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 330 lbs.

No. 203 (R6, 24) LB Tanner Muse, Clemson; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 227 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) WR Dezmon Patmon, Washington St; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) CB Lamar Jackson, Nebraska; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 206 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) TE Jacob Breeland, Oregon; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 252 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) QB Anthony Gordon, Washington St.; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 238 (R7, 24) Traded to NY Giants (CB Eli Apple)
No. 238 (R7, 24) RG Jon Runyan, Michigan; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 306 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) LB Jordan Mack, Virginia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 241 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) DE Casey Toohill, School; Stanford: 6' 4", Weight: 250 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) CB James Pierre, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 242 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) WR Kendrick Rogers, Texas A&M; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 208 lbs.

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Old 04-15-2020, 10:32 AM   #663
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Is that right? A cornerback who is 6'4", 250? What's his 40 time?
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Typo.
Well, in my mind, yes...

Thanks, Bros, I've updated it...

Really like to see you guys list some prospects y'all like!

Don't let the coding worry you, you can click Quote, delete the Quote brackets before and after the text, and the edit as you see fit...
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Old 04-15-2020, 01:33 PM   #664
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What happened to LB McQueen? I'd like him if he lasted to the 2nd and wouldn't be sad if we took him in the 1st.

Pick no WRs early in a WR-deep draft. Last time, we did anyway with B. Cooks (over Landry in the 2nd). Didn't optimize.

Liked WR Antonio Gibson even when JP projected him in the 3rd. Really like if the 4th.

Prefer a 1st round trade down for 2nd round/plus but (if keeping our 1st):

No. 24 (R1, 24) DE A.J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 275 lbs.

No. 56 (R2, 24) Traded to Miami Dolphins (C Erik McCoy)

No. 56 (R2, 24) C Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 314 lbs.


No. 88 (R3, 24) LB Logan Wilson, Wyoming; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 241 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) TE Harrison Bryant, Florida Atl; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 243 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) RT Ezra Cleveland, Boise St.; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 311 lbs.


No. 130 (R4, 24) WR Antonio Gibson, Memphis; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 228 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) CB Reggie Robinson, Tulsa; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 202 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) LG Logan Stenberg, Kentucky; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 317 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) DE Kenny Willekes, Michigan St; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 262 lbs.[/I]

No. 169 (R5, 24) LG Ben Bredeson, Michigan; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 315 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) QB James Morgan, Florida Intíl; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 229 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) TE Colby Parkinson, Stanford; Height: 6' 7", Weight: 252 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) WR Stephen Guidry, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 201 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) NT Leki Fotu, Utah; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 330 lbs.

No. 203 (R6, 24) LB Tanner Muse, Clemson; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 227 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) WR Dezmon Patmon, Washington St; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) CB Lamar Jackson, Nebraska; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 206 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) TE Jacob Breeland, Oregon; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 252 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) QB Anthony Gordon, Washington St.; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 238 (R7, 24) Traded to NY Giants (CB Eli Apple)
No. 238 (R7, 24) RG Jon Runyan, Michigan; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 306 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) LB Jordan Mack, Virginia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 241 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) DE Casey Toohill, School; Stanford: 6' 4", Weight: 250 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) CB James Pierre, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 242 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) WR Kendrick Rogers, Texas A&M; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 208 lbs.[/B][/QUOTE]
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Old 04-16-2020, 08:05 AM   #665
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Old 04-16-2020, 08:09 AM   #666
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Big question re: Where to take Antonio Gibson is where do the Saints envision him? As a WR or a RB? or both?

To me, he's a cross between a Steve Smith-type WRz and a WR3; some scouting services including Steve Shoup are convinced he's a RB.

Reviewing many of the mocks/sims, he's going anywhere between the late 3rd to the 5th, so I moved him down into the 4th.
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Old 04-16-2020, 08:18 AM   #667
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Some of my problems with Queen are:

His length in the Saints 4-3/Nickel/Heavy Nickel is gonna be a problem, that's a big reason why I believe Robertson is kept on special teams nearly exclusively...

Queen is quick, fast, just not that fast that he can compensate for that length; Think in terms of a WR with a big catch radius, a taller LBer will have reach to minimize those areas...

Another issue is Queen only has a half season of good tape; now that tape looks really good, and he's efficient - but do we want just efficient in Round 2 or a playmaker?

Believe the better fit for him will be on the inside in a 3-4 like the Steelers where he can complement and clean up a lot of plays, racking up tackle stats, maybe forcing fumbles...

In full transparency, maybe being superstitious, as a franchise we've not a good track record with LBers in the 1st round, Alvin Toles in '85, Mark Fields in '95, Stephone Anthony in '15...

Lastly, have said this before, two years ago - I've come to realize linebackers are nearly obsolete in today's NFL game...


Value in taking LBers in the draft and staying power doesn't warrant a first round pick about like RBs have been reduced as well...

To me, if you're gonna use a first round pick, use it on a player that can give 10-12 years to a franchise where you've leverage, control contractually...

That's why first round picks are so valuable (unless you're Sean Payton) and I really believe trade charts should be updated to reflect this...
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:53 AM   #668
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I believe you can get a dawg linebacker in the middle rounds. Niners Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw were 3rd and 5th rounders respectively already playing at a good to high level.

Don't trust Queen or Murray in the first round. The only linebacker I'd draft in the first is Isiah Simmons and he'll be long gone by the time we pick.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:17 PM   #669
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Maybe the Saints surprise us and move up to get a QB in the 1st?

Tua? Jordan Love perhaps?
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:29 PM   #670
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Maybe the Saints surprise us and move up to get a QB in the 1st?

Tua? Jordan Love perhaps?
Tua's had more than the hip injury, but can't get past that injury...

Rather have Josh Love over Jordan Love; Jordan Love is just soerratic...
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