2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 03-18-2020, 09:37 AM

st thomas · 03-18-2020, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Seems like it. We might as well just ride with Kiko at this point and spend the money elsewhere. Maybe try to pull off a trade.

Kiko 3rd acl? Likely not going to make the cut.

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jeanpierre · 03-18-2020, 09:43 AM

RefsRobbedUs · 03-18-2020, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Robby Anderson

Yeah he is asking for too much. Probably why he isn’t signed

jeanpierre · 03-18-2020, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Seems like it. We might as well just ride with Kiko at this point and spend the money elsewhere. Maybe try to pull off a trade.

Two things to keep in mind...

First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock...

Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete...

And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage...

Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important...

jeanpierre · 03-18-2020, 10:02 AM

K Major · 03-18-2020, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Two things to keep in mind...

First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock...

Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete...

And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage...

Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important...

I hear you however on paper ... collectively, the linebacker position as a group isn't all that impressive. Then + add in we've lost the best LB coach in the business.

It gets really old when we have to rely on lower round/undrafted players or guys who are always injured. Elliss is essentially still a rookie, coming off a knee tear & Craig is SLOW. Who knows how many games we'll get out of Anzalone.

We know how the Saints like to "trade up" to get their guy ... Isaiah Simmons or Murray could be that player in 2020 draft.

Gotta get faster at the position. Demario needs help.

rezburna · 03-18-2020, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Two things to keep in mind...

First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock...

Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete...

And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage...

Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important...

Understood, but I feel like we need to have the capability to go 4-3 to deal with the run. Also, smart teams killed us to the outside with sweeps and tosses. We have to get faster from sideline to sideline. I know Anzalone can do it, but he has to stay on the field. If any position was weak this year, it was LB’er.

st thomas · 03-18-2020, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Understood, but I feel like we need to have the capability to go 4-3 to deal with the run. Also, smart teams killed us to the outside with sweeps and tosses. We have to get faster from sideline to sideline. I know Anzalone can do it, but he has to stay on the field. If any position was weak this year, it was LB’er.

I looked back at the few games alozone played he’s pretty good sideline to sideline. but up the gut on him he’s kind of tunnel vision and he gets knocked out of a play by not fighting thru some blocks.

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rezburna · 03-18-2020, 11:48 AM

We signed Malcolm Jenkins.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by rezburna Seems like it. We might as well just ride with Kiko at this point and spend the money elsewhere. Maybe try to pull off a trade. Kiko 3rd acl? Likely not going to make the cut. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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03-18-2020, 09:51 AM	#445
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by rezburna Seems like it. We might as well just ride with Kiko at this point and spend the money elsewhere. Maybe try to pull off a trade. Two things to keep in mind... First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock... Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete... And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage... Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important...
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Two things to keep in mind... First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock... Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete... And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage... Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important... I hear you however on paper ... collectively, the linebacker position as a group isn't all that impressive. Then + add in we've lost the best LB coach in the business. It gets really old when we have to rely on lower round/undrafted players or guys who are always injured. Elliss is essentially still a rookie, coming off a knee tear & Craig is SLOW. Who knows how many games we'll get out of Anzalone. We know how the Saints like to "trade up" to get their guy ... Isaiah Simmons or Murray could be that player in 2020 draft. Gotta get faster at the position. Demario needs help. jeanpierre likes this.

03-18-2020, 10:32 AM	#448
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Two things to keep in mind... First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock... Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete... And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage... Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important... Understood, but I feel like we need to have the capability to go 4-3 to deal with the run. Also, smart teams killed us to the outside with sweeps and tosses. We have to get faster from sideline to sideline. I know Anzalone can do it, but he has to stay on the field. If any position was weak this year, it was LB’er. jeanpierre likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by rezburna Understood, but I feel like we need to have the capability to go 4-3 to deal with the run. Also, smart teams killed us to the outside with sweeps and tosses. We have to get faster from sideline to sideline. I know Anzalone can do it, but he has to stay on the field. If any position was weak this year, it was LB’er. I looked back at the few games alozone played he’s pretty good sideline to sideline. but up the gut on him he’s kind of tunnel vision and he gets knocked out of a play by not fighting thru some blocks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk rezburna likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints We signed Malcolm Jenkins.