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Old 01-18-2020, 05:18 PM   #1
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Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?

[QUOTE=cars4dylan;877505]Laying the blame on Brees is an easy and cowardly way out.

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Old 01-18-2020, 07:20 PM   #2
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Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?


CAlling it like I see it.
I think the feminine burning is coming from the "Cut Brees" Lobby.
I'm disappointed we lost, also. I understand you need a goat, even if its the G.O.A.T, to sacrifice to appease your disappointment, and this year we cant
blame the refs. Nevermind, the injured, and underperforming OL, including your All-Pro starting Center. You cant throw from your Butt. Ok, Bobby could, but...

I'm not judging, believe me- in spite of the divisive tone. This is the internet, and it just doesnt mean that much, after you've seen it a few years. I'd just as soon post pictures of cats.

But hey, this whole BDS is a tantrum, and I've been guilty of plenty of tantrums in my youth---and you just dont know nasty, till you saw me in my 20s (or 30s) after the Saints lost. I went out of my way to say something shockingly ugly. They didnt have Antifa back then, and I was too big for diapers, so I needed to vent.

I once punched my own Windshield out in my car-- true story.. I had no idea windshields broke that easily. (My body went thru one a few years later, at the hands of a deranged girlfriend-- different story) I jabbed my windshield after a loss to the 49ers, and left the bar, without telling my girlfriend or buddies. (she drove her own car there) Eventually, I apologized to her, and she told me one of our WhoDats said, "Man, he sure takes his football seriously."

Your hurting. I'm hurting. We were going to have the biggest party. Dont tell me NOTHIN, DUDE. I hired a freakin JAZZ BAND for the Vikings game!

We're all armchair Vince Lombardis, and we all, at some time need to RAAAAGE, and I get it. Eventually, I learned to hold my wife's hand (3rd wife- yall've met her) I held her hand sweetly every time we lost, and walked from the Dome to the Quarter, and we went to Royal St. because she liked to look at pretty things--- and she knew I was hurting, and I liked myself so much better, when I acted right. And we had ice cream, and some kind of good food. And it gets better and the Sun will come out, and Im having a Crawfish Party, and a Draft Party, and Baseball, and before you know it, Training Camp.

Shhhh.. go to sleep now.
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Old 01-18-2020, 08:04 PM   #3
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Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?

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CAlling it like I see it.
I think the feminine burning is coming from the "Cut Brees" Lobby.
I'm disappointed we lost, also. I understand you need a goat, even if its the G.O.A.T, to sacrifice to appease your disappointment, and this year we cant
blame the refs. Nevermind, the injured, and underperforming OL, including your All-Pro starting Center. You cant throw from your Butt. Ok, Bobby could, but...

I'm not judging, believe me- in spite of the divisive tone. This is the internet, and it just doesnt mean that much, after you've seen it a few years. I'd just as soon post pictures of cats.

But hey, this whole BDS is a tantrum, and I've been guilty of plenty of tantrums in my youth---and you just dont know nasty, till you saw me in my 20s (or 30s) after the Saints lost. I went out of my way to say something shockingly ugly. They didnt have Antifa back then, and I was too big for diapers, so I needed to vent.

I once punched my own Windshield out in my car-- true story.. I had no idea windshields broke that easily. (My body went thru one a few years later, at the hands of a deranged girlfriend-- different story) I jabbed my windshield after a loss to the 49ers, and left the bar, without telling my girlfriend or buddies. (she drove her own car there) Eventually, I apologized to her, and she told me one of our WhoDats said, "Man, he sure takes his football seriously."

Your hurting. I'm hurting. We were going to have the biggest party. Dont tell me NOTHIN, DUDE. I hired a freakin JAZZ BAND for the Vikings game!

We're all armchair Vince Lombardis, and we all, at some time need to RAAAAGE, and I get it. Eventually, I learned to hold my wife's hand (3rd wife- yall've met her) I held her hand sweetly every time we lost, and walked from the Dome to the Quarter, and we went to Royal St. because she liked to look at pretty things--- and she knew I was hurting, and I liked myself so much better, when I acted right. And we had ice cream, and some kind of good food. And it gets better and the Sun will come out, and Im having a Crawfish Party, and a Draft Party, and Baseball, and before you know it, Training Camp.

Shhhh.. go to sleep now.
Love you, man!
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:37 AM   #4
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Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?

Every QB left in the playoffs past the first round can all (move). They keep drives alive we punt ,they slide. Drew slid once for a 2 yard lost this year. I’m not throwing drew Brees under the bus his/ our hands are tied in the passing game. It’s MT or bust. It was a bust.it’s not about the salary cap should have stated that sorry.


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Old 01-17-2020, 09:30 AM   #5
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Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?

I'll put a twist on the Brees "situation" ...

If he "stays", gotta upgrade the GUARD position. Peat was either hurt or a liability in 2019. At this stage of his career, Brees needs good solid guard protection in the middle. Vikings saw a weakness and exploited it.

Brees needs another "target" to throw to. Not necessarily the deep ball but a guy who can run short, intermediate routes and can create separation. Tre isn't the guy.

Lastly, upgrade players on defense so we can get off the field on 3rd down. LINEBACKER, DE (I don't trust Davenport to stay healthy 16 games) FREE SAFETY.

But again, we need more weapons at WR. I'd like to get another one in FA in addition to the draft.

I'm really curious to see who the Saints retain & allow to walk in 2020.
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:14 PM   #6
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Brees has one WR. Maybe the best possession WR of all-time. But, just one. Brees has a coach who refuses to run the ball even though he won it all with his most balanced attack. Brees's all-world do everything guy Kamara, for whatever reason or reasons, was an unproductive shell of himself this season. The worst non-tackle in history by Williams and the coaches cost Brees a Super Bowl shot two years ago. The ref's robbed Brees of a Super Bowl last year. Key injuries, along with being out coached and out played as a whole, with another game deciding assist from the refs, cost Brees a Super Bowl shot this year. The Saints would have not won their only Super Bowl without Brees. The Saints would not have been in real contention for any other Super Bowls without Brees. As long as Brees wants to be a Saint, he needs to be a Saint.
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:29 AM   #7
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[QUOTE=Cruize;877534]Brees has one WR. Maybe the best possession WR of all-time. But, just one. Brees has a coach who refuses to run the ball even though he won it all with his most balanced attack. Brees's all-world do everything guy Kamara, for whatever reason or reasons, was an unproductive shell of himself this season. /QUOTE]

One.

Brees can no longer bail out below average WR's. I'd replace Ginn & Tre ...especially Tre. He's been in the system long enough to be making more of an impact. I saw him LIVE 2 years ago here in Dallas (wrong routes, late off the line, dropped a TD on a slant etc) & I'm still seeing the same WR without much improvement.

It's too bad Cam Meredith, Rashard Matthews, Dez etc never got a true chance to see if they could help our team in 2019.

Unfortunate.

I'm looking forward to the 2020 draft & Free Agency. We have holes that need to be addressed if we want to get back and win the SB before Brees exits left.
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Old 01-19-2020, 03:56 AM   #8
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Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?

The answer to the question is “no”. Just don’t resign him and move on to Bridgewater. Brees accuracy is crap beyond 15 yards, arm strength is diminished, and if he is not allowed to step up in the pocket the chances of a incompletion increase and turnover increase significantly. Best for him to retire on top by winning the division than continue to become the reason for the saints demise.
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Old 01-19-2020, 05:00 AM   #9
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You simply can not hold a team hostage when you are a free agent at the end of every season lol. Next....
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:18 AM   #10
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Someone asked "How do you cope with a crushing loss?" The answer for me is easy. I moved from Metairie in 1988. Spent the next 12 years in the middle of Alabama. Where "What's the NFL?" was the locals mantra. Bama and Auburn ruled supreme. No one I worked with cared about pro football. Wasn't talked about for hours and hours. Been that way till I moved north of Indianapolis. The GOAT Peyton Manning was playing out the end of his career. The enemy is the Pat's. I work in Lafayette and once again no one care about the NFL. Drew Brees, yes. He went to the local university. It's easy for me to get over a Saints loss. No longer being a "way of life" it truly has become "Just a game millionaires play on Sunday."
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