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jeanpierre 05-15-2020 06:30 PM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – RB or WR or RB?

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 1 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 18 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 83 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 74 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 64 - Will Clapp, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 60 -Patrick Omameh (FA 2020), 70 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 59 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 76 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards, 69 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 58 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 39 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020)


90-man Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 44; Defense: 40; Kicking: 6

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

AsylumGuido 05-15-2020 06:31 PM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888985)
Now the question is do we end up keeping four (4) RBs and one (1) FB?

Saints have Ty Montgomery listed as a RB...

As he was listed most recently. It is for payment reasons. They agreed to a RB contract level as opposed to a WR level which is higher. Makes sense.

jeanpierre 05-15-2020 06:44 PM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 888988)
As he was listed most recently. It is for payment reasons. They agreed to a RB contract level as opposed to a WR level which is higher. Makes sense.

Might also have something to do with Montgomery having poor hands, and that's why he's playing RB...

He does offer something in the return game, though...

ProFootball Reference: Ty Montgomery Career Stats

Utah_Saint 05-15-2020 08:49 PM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888989)
Might also have something to do with Montgomery having poor hands, and that's why he's playing RB...

He does offer something in the return game, though...

ProFootball Reference: Ty Montgomery Career Stats

Poor hands? PFR says he has a 73.6% career catch rate. That's not bad. By comparison Todd Gurley's career catch rate is 72.4% and I've never heard anyone say he has poor hands.

Montgomery really only had one bad receiving year and that was when he played for Baltimore. His catch % was 62.5 that season. The team rate was only 60%.

In his first season before he played RB he had a 78.9% rate. That's very good. I think it would be hard to say he has "poor hands."

jeanpierre 05-16-2020 07:54 AM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 888994)
Poor hands? PFR says he has a 73.6% career catch rate. That's not bad. By comparison Todd Gurley's career catch rate is 72.4% and I've never heard anyone say he has poor hands.

Montgomery really only had one bad receiving year and that was when he played for Baltimore. His catch % was 62.5 that season. The team rate was only 60%.

In his first season before he played RB he had a 78.9% rate. That's very good. I think it would be hard to say he has "poor hands."

Utah, he was moved from WR to RB (see scouting report) because of his hands; sure you'd agree it's different catching lobs out of the backfield vs darts downfield in coverage...

According to ProFootball Reference, since joining the league, he's not even in the top 200 on catch rate for RBs...

That was the point I was making about his position designation; and one of the pluses of his addition to the roster is that he'd been a solid return guy except for one gaffe Packers fans couldn't forget...

ChrisXVI 05-16-2020 09:22 AM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I was under the impression he switched to RB because Eddie Lacey and James Starks got injured and they were desperate. Randall Cobb was even lining up in the backfield at times.

Utah_Saint 05-16-2020 09:31 AM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 889041)
I was under the impression he switched to RB because Eddie Lacey and James Starks got injured and they were desperate. Randall Cobb was even lining up in the backfield at times.

Yes, that's what I remember too. GB was out of RBs and Montgomery was pressed into service.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 889023)
Utah, he was moved from WR to RB (see scouting report) because of his hands; sure you'd agree it's different catching lobs out of the backfield vs darts downfield in coverage...

According to ProFootball Reference, since joining the league, he's not even in the top 200 on catch rate for RBs...

That was the point I was making about his position designation; and one of the pluses of his addition to the roster is that he'd been a solid return guy except for one gaffe Packers fans couldn't forget...

That's why I pointed out his catch rate before being moved to RB. 78% is crazy good for a WR.

I'm not saying he's the best receiving back in the league but to say he has "poor hands" is quite a stretch.

AsylumGuido 05-16-2020 12:12 PM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 889041)
I was under the impression he switched to RB because Eddie Lacey and James Starks got injured and they were desperate. Randall Cobb was even lining up in the backfield at times.

Yes. That was the impetus for the move. I remember all the talk about that on NFL Radio when it came about.

jeanpierre 05-16-2020 04:29 PM

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K Major 05-16-2020 04:36 PM

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 889058)

That 48.5 from Peat though ...

Gotta do better than that in 2020.


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