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jeanpierre 02-23-2020 01:03 PM
2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – OffSeason

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020)

RB (2) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray

FB (1) 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (3) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 80 - Austin Carr (RFA - 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (RFA 2020)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (ERFA 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

NCB (1) 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 62; Offense: 29; Defense: 28; Kicking: 5

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 02-23-2020 01:12 PM
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jeanpierre 02-23-2020 02:06 PM
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jeanpierre 02-23-2020 02:15 PM
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FinSaint 02-24-2020 08:24 AM
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I thought I read somewhere that Zack Line retired?!

I might be wrong though...

jeanpierre 02-24-2020 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 880526)
I thought I read somewhere that Zack Line retired?!

I might be wrong though...

K Major 02-24-2020 09:22 AM
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WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (ERFA 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


^^ upgrades are needed and necessary for 2020 at the "Z" position.

Ruggs
Reagor
"Viska"
JJefferson
Higgins ... what are the chances of any of these guys falling to #24.

Do the Saints bite?

ChrisXVI 02-24-2020 11:14 AM
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jeanpierre 02-24-2020 12:07 PM
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Rugby Saint II 02-24-2020 02:02 PM
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We are not on par with the other 31 teams when it comes to the salary cap. We have this brilliant accountant who can kick money down the road knowing that the Cap grows each year and be creative with our finances. Making it happen is Mickey Loomis. He may not know football but he knows how to manipulate our contracts from accounting. Also, Jeff Ireland is our real GM.

K Major 02-26-2020 10:05 AM
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55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. I hope his rehab went well.

Could be that sideline to sideline to guy in 2020.

K Major 02-26-2020 10:13 AM
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55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. Hopefully his rehab went well this off season & he's only 24. Could be that sideline to sideline guy we need along side DDavis.

jeanpierre 02-29-2020 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880675)
55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. I hope his rehab went well.

Could be that sideline to sideline to guy in 2020.
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880677)
55 - Kaden Elliss

Keep on eye on this guy. Hopefully his rehab went well this off season & he's only 24. Could be that sideline to sideline guy we need along side DDavis.
We've actually got a few Rover LBers on the roster who started as SS's, so I suspect Robertson's age, cap number may make him a salary cap casualty...

K Major 03-03-2020 08:28 AM
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Bump ...

Just my opinion but the Saints secondary needs a make over ... 3 years in a row. Below avg IQ on the back end have knocked us out of post season contention. It's all or nothing in 2020. Some of these guys needs to step.


I hate to be "that guy" but Marcus Williams is becoming somewhat of a liability back there.

By the way, I hope we keep Janoris at the #2 spot this season.

jeanpierre 03-04-2020 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881099)
Bump ...

Just my opinion but the Saints secondary needs a make over ... 3 years in a row. Below avg IQ on the back end have knocked us out of post season contention. It's all or nothing in 2020. Some of these guys needs to step.


I hate to be "that guy" but Marcus Williams is becoming somewhat of a liability back there.

By the way, I hope we keep Janoris at the #2 spot this season.
Really believe it's been more scheme and the onus should be put squarely on Dennis Allen and not on Mr. Marcus for a couple of plays that swung the game the other way against us...

We can't be elite at every position unless we had perfect-storm drafts every year with a full complement of draft picks, but, and for what it's worth, a few grading services have graded Marcus Williams' play as elite...

Lack of a consistent even pass rush effort and failure to revert back to not running the ball, eating clock, giving the opponent less opportunities come playoff time is why we've been quick-outs...

K Major 03-04-2020 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 881196)
[B]Really believe it's been more scheme and the onus should be put squarely on Dennis Allen and not on Mr. Marcus for a couple of plays that swung the game the other way against us...
I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever.

As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling.

Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now.

He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games.

Rugby Saint II 03-04-2020 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881216)
I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever.

As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling.

Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now.

He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games.


Yeah, he just doesn't have the "it" factor and looks lost at critical times. I just don't think he's good under pressure. Too many gaffes for him to be considered elite......or even good.:lolup:

jeanpierre 03-05-2020 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881216)
I've never been impressed with DA as Def Coordinator. Ever.

As for Marcus, what is this year 3 in this system? The most fundamental things concern me with him.... tackling.

Love his work ethic but you can't continue to dip and tuck your head in the open field. Those bad habits should have been gone by now.

He's come up short in key moments 2 of the last 3 seasons & consistently late over the top. While his game recognition improved, his inability to diagnose quickly & capitalize has become a problem.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't trust him in key, crucial moments in games.
Would definitely agree that our hitting & tackling still doesn't instill fear or even respect in our opponents - coming of age with the Dome Patrol set a high bar of my expectations...

AsylumGuido 03-05-2020 03:31 PM
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http://blackandgold.com/u/4973-album...icture1351.jpg

For those that inferred that Brees might consider leaving ...

:bng:

jeanpierre 03-05-2020 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 881278)
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net...b2&oe=5E83351C

For those that inferred that Brees might consider leaving ...

:bng:
Bad image url link, AG...

Edit, update your post, Brother, I'd like to see it...

AsylumGuido 03-05-2020 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 881279)
Bad image url link, AG...

Edit, update your post, Brother, I'd like to see it...
http://blackandgold.com/u/4973-album...icture1351.jpg

ChrisXVI 03-06-2020 08:00 AM
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Let’s hope that shoulder is finally fixed once and for all!

AsylumGuido 03-06-2020 11:02 AM
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This really sounds to me like he is no where close to retiring.

jeanpierre 03-07-2020 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 881299)
This really sounds to me like he is no where close to retiring.
Yeah, and I thought I still had game when I hit the clubs looking for hookups at 45 too! ;)

His body and his wifey will tell him when he's done...

jeanpierre 03-08-2020 05:50 PM
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jeanpierre 03-08-2020 05:52 PM
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K Major 03-08-2020 06:11 PM
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Glad all is well with Thor however we still need to draft another linebacker.

jeanpierre 03-08-2020 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881389)
Glad all is well with Thor however we still need to draft another linebacker.
Don't forget, we've got several promising young linebackers on the roster as well...

K Major 03-08-2020 10:04 PM
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RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport ...

IMO Saints need to sign a mid tier type DE this off season. Marcus lack of availability has hurt us 2 seasons and counting. Shimmy Sheldon is not far behind.

Saints front office brass spent a lot of draft capital only to see them in street clothes late in the season .. 2 1st rounders.

The aforementioned guys have simply spent too much time on IR.

jeanpierre 03-11-2020 10:39 AM
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It's not that Payton was wrong in prioritizing DE, it's the overspending of draft capital into too few players and not trusting the scouting film more to use more role players as the Patriots do successfully...

jeanpierre 03-11-2020 10:40 AM
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jeanpierre 03-11-2020 10:42 AM
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jeanpierre 03-11-2020 10:43 AM
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jeanpierre 03-12-2020 10:55 AM
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Is our pass rush good enough? If A.J. Epenesa were there at Pick 24, do we take him?

K Major 03-12-2020 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 881569)
Is our pass rush good enough? If A.J. Epenesa were there at Pick 24, do we take him?
IMO it isn't but we only have 5 picks in the 2020 draft :(.

I could see us going after a mid tier DE/rotational pass rusher in Free Agency. Guys like Judon and Shaq Lawson could make an "impact" similar to what Okafor did while in New Orleans.

I'm probably wrong but pick #24 screams WR. Brees needs more "threats" on offense not named Michael Thomas.

Fix the GUARD position with a mean, nasty mofo and a legit WR target in the slot ... we're cooking with gas again on offense. Shades of 2011.

K Major 03-12-2020 11:39 AM
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To piggy back on the post above ...

I'm ok with not having a 2nd round pick (trade w/Mia/moved up for McCoy) this season. A solid rookie campaign, smart, stayed relatively healthy and could become as good as if not better than Unger.

jeanpierre 03-12-2020 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881572)
To piggy back on the post above ...

I'm ok with not having a 2nd round pick (trade w/Mia/moved up for McCoy) this season. A solid rookie campaign, smart, stayed relatively healthy and could become as good as if not better than Unger.
Dominoes, it started when we traded too much to move up to take Davenport...

jeanpierre 03-12-2020 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881571)
IMO it isn't but we only have 5 picks in the 2020 draft :(.

I could see us going after a mid tier DE/rotational pass rusher in Free Agency. Guys like Judon and Shaq Lawson could make an "impact" similar to what Okafor did while in New Orleans.

I'm probably wrong but pick #24 screams WR. Brees needs more "threats" on offense not named Michael Thomas.

Fix the GUARD position with a mean, nasty mofo and a legit WR target in the slot ... we're cooking with gas again on offense. Shades of 2011.
Situation: A.J. Epenesa falls to us at No. 24, do you pull the trigger?

K Major 03-12-2020 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 881597)
Situation: A.J. Epenesa falls to us at No. 24, do you pull the trigger?
I would. Elite pass rushers with his ability are hard to find at this level.

My spider senses tell me no way AJ falls to 24 but then again no one expected a stud lineman (Ramz) to drop either.

jeanpierre 03-13-2020 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881600)
I would. Elite pass rushers with his ability are hard to find at this level.

My spider senses tell me no way AJ falls to 24 but then again no one expected a stud lineman (Ramz) to drop either.
Reason why I point this out, recognizing many similarities, in so far as the player position rankings, to the 2011 NFL Draft when we took Cam Jordan at No. 24...

Epenesa reminds me of Cam Jordan is measurables, playing style, et cetera...


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