Taysom Hill will have same role as No. 2 QB

ScottF · 03-26-2020, 08:58 AM

His role did not change much when Teddy took over.
Should he still be in for all of the ST packages? Probably not.

The Dude · 03-26-2020, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

His role did not change much when Teddy took over.
Should he still be in for all of the ST packages? Probably not.

Absolutely not.

Budsdrinker · 03-26-2020, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Absolutely not.

Not all packages but definitely when a spark is needed. He provides that much
needed spark when the team is struggling. See the blocked punts against Tampa, Falcons and also a kickoff return. The man is an athlete. Might not be a starting QB but he is an athlete and should be played wherever is most beneficial to the team.

AsylumGuido · 03-26-2020, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

His role did not change much when Teddy took over.
Should he still be in for all of the ST packages? Probably not.

Actually, his role changed quite a bit over that stretch.

He was only targeted three times over the five games with Teddy at QB. He averaged close to two targets per game in the other games.

He averaged two runs per game with Teddy.

The greatest difference was on special teams.

In the five games with Teddy (7, 4, 5, 6, 9 ST snaps).

In the other eleven games (23, 23, 19, 24, 19, 23, 25, 31, 17, 29, 23).

Regardless of what Payton says, I would be shocked if his role wasn't greatly diminished if he was truly the #2 QB. There had better be at least a #2b on game day.

ScottF · 03-26-2020, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Actually, his role changed quite a bit over that stretch.

He was only targeted three times over the five games with Teddy at QB. He averaged close to two targets per game in the other games.

He averaged two runs per game with Teddy.

The greatest difference was on special teams.

In the five games with Teddy (7, 4, 5, 6, 9 ST snaps).

In the other eleven games (23, 23, 19, 24, 19, 23, 25, 31, 17, 29, 23).

Regardless of what Payton says, I would be shocked if his role wasn't greatly diminished if he was truly the #2 QB. There had better be at least a #2b on game day.

Well, one explanation on the lower targets might be that we threw more with Brees on the field than Teddy, and 2 carries is right around what he averaged. I agree with you that we won't see him as much, especially in the slot or at TE or FB.
He adds a dimension on punts (both sides) but he doesn't need to be on either KO team, especially with 10 games inside domes where returns are a rarity

TheOak · 03-27-2020, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

His role did not change much when Teddy took over.
Should he still be in for all of the ST packages? Probably not.

It did but only slightly, Sean Payton did comment at one time the realization that Hill was the #2 and how he changed his utilization somewhat.

AsylumGuido · 03-27-2020, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

It did but only slightly, Sean Payton did comment at one time the realization that Hill was the #2 and how he changed his utilization somewhat.

I posted some numbers on how it did change. There were areas where it was dramatic.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Taysom Hill will have same role as No. 2 QB Originally Posted by The Dude Absolutely not. Not all packages but definitely when a spark is needed. He provides that much needed spark when the team is struggling. See the blocked punts against Tampa, Falcons and also a kickoff return. The man is an athlete. Might not be a starting QB but he is an athlete and should be played wherever is most beneficial to the team. SmashMouth likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,569	Re: Taysom Hill will have same role as No. 2 QB Originally Posted by ScottF His role did not change much when Teddy took over. Should he still be in for all of the ST packages? Probably not. Actually, his role changed quite a bit over that stretch. He was only targeted three times over the five games with Teddy at QB. He averaged close to two targets per game in the other games. He averaged two runs per game with Teddy. The greatest difference was on special teams. In the five games with Teddy (7, 4, 5, 6, 9 ST snaps). In the other eleven games (23, 23, 19, 24, 19, 23, 25, 31, 17, 29, 23). Regardless of what Payton says, I would be shocked if his role wasn't greatly diminished if he was truly the #2 QB. There had better be at least a #2b on game day. Sainters7 likes this.
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03-26-2020, 10:35 AM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Taysom Hill will have same role as No. 2 QB Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Actually, his role changed quite a bit over that stretch. He was only targeted three times over the five games with Teddy at QB. He averaged close to two targets per game in the other games. He averaged two runs per game with Teddy. The greatest difference was on special teams. In the five games with Teddy (7, 4, 5, 6, 9 ST snaps). In the other eleven games (23, 23, 19, 24, 19, 23, 25, 31, 17, 29, 23). Regardless of what Payton says, I would be shocked if his role wasn't greatly diminished if he was truly the #2 QB. There had better be at least a #2b on game day. Well, one explanation on the lower targets might be that we threw more with Brees on the field than Teddy, and 2 carries is right around what he averaged. I agree with you that we won't see him as much, especially in the slot or at TE or FB. He adds a dimension on punts (both sides) but he doesn't need to be on either KO team, especially with 10 games inside domes where returns are a rarity

03-27-2020, 02:24 PM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Taysom Hill will have same role as No. 2 QB Originally Posted by ScottF His role did not change much when Teddy took over. Should he still be in for all of the ST packages? Probably not. It did but only slightly, Sean Payton did comment at one time the realization that Hill was the #2 and how he changed his utilization somewhat.

03-27-2020, 05:08 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,569	Re: Taysom Hill will have same role as No. 2 QB Originally Posted by TheOak It did but only slightly, Sean Payton did comment at one time the realization that Hill was the #2 and how he changed his utilization somewhat. I posted some numbers on how it did change. There were areas where it was dramatic.