USA Today/Saints Wire: Ex-Saints wide receiver Brandon Marshall: 'Their window is closed'

Rugby Saint II · 04-16-2020, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

IF the Saints don't win another title with Brees, you gotta start at the top of the organization - Sean Payton...

Believe the addition of Sanders and drafting another defensive end, will be the difference...

I'm gonna' have to disagree jp. If Sean Payton also coached defense then I would have to agree but he coaches offense. Does he hire the DC? My guess is that he has full autonomy and there might be a problem with that. The defense has failed us miserably the last few years but outside of GW we just can't field a good defense. Maybe we need to be looking closer at Dennis Allen.

jeanpierre · 04-16-2020, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm gonna' have to disagree jp. If Sean Payton also coached defense then I would have to agree but he coaches offense. Does he hire the DC? My guess is that he has full autonomy and there might be a problem with that. The defense has failed us miserably the last few years but outside of GW we just can't field a good defense. Maybe we need to be looking closer at Dennis Allen.

Fair enough, but his flip-flopping of a 4-3 to a 3-4 back to a 4-3, all those draft picks wasted and/or departed talented players (i.e. Akiem Hicks) were his decisions...

Payton does pick the staff/DC, hell Rugs, he's got full authority, and with that should come the full responsibility of a lack of results and chokes in the playoffs...

We've three straight years in the playoffs where we had 'em and Payton had to show he could outsmart everyone in the house, including himself...

K Major · 04-16-2020, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Payton does pick the staff/DC, hell Rugs, he's got full authority, and with that should come the full responsibility of a lack of results and chokes in the playoffs...

This right here. Holding on to Bill Johnson, Vitt & McMahon years too long. That is on Sean Payton.

IMO Dennis Allen isn't getting done as DC either. Too many blunders late in ball games/playoffs that have cost us. Isn't his claim to fame in the secondary?

IDK, just not a fan of his defensive scheme.

04-16-2020, 02:25 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,148	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Ex-Saints wide receiver Brandon Marshall: 'Their window is closed' Originally Posted by jeanpierre IF the Saints don't win another title with Brees, you gotta start at the top of the organization - Sean Payton... Believe the addition of Sanders and drafting another defensive end, will be the difference... I'm gonna' have to disagree jp. If Sean Payton also coached defense then I would have to agree but he coaches offense. Does he hire the DC? My guess is that he has full autonomy and there might be a problem with that. The defense has failed us miserably the last few years but outside of GW we just can't field a good defense. Maybe we need to be looking closer at Dennis Allen. jnormand and jeanpierre like this.

04-16-2020, 02:56 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Ex-Saints wide receiver Brandon Marshall: 'Their window is closed' Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'm gonna' have to disagree jp. If Sean Payton also coached defense then I would have to agree but he coaches offense. Does he hire the DC? My guess is that he has full autonomy and there might be a problem with that. The defense has failed us miserably the last few years but outside of GW we just can't field a good defense. Maybe we need to be looking closer at Dennis Allen. Fair enough, but his flip-flopping of a 4-3 to a 3-4 back to a 4-3, all those draft picks wasted and/or departed talented players (i.e. Akiem Hicks) were his decisions... Payton does pick the staff/DC, hell Rugs, he's got full authority, and with that should come the full responsibility of a lack of results and chokes in the playoffs... We've three straight years in the playoffs where we had 'em and Payton had to show he could outsmart everyone in the house, including himself... Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

04-16-2020, 03:15 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Ex-Saints wide receiver Brandon Marshall: 'Their window is closed' Originally Posted by jeanpierre Payton does pick the staff/DC, hell Rugs, he's got full authority, and with that should come the full responsibility of a lack of results and chokes in the playoffs... This right here. Holding on to Bill Johnson, Vitt & McMahon years too long. That is on Sean Payton. IMO Dennis Allen isn't getting done as DC either. Too many blunders late in ball games/playoffs that have cost us. Isn't his claim to fame in the secondary? IDK, just not a fan of his defensive scheme. jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and halloween 65 like this.