Saints Draft Days Official Thread

04-25-2020, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too

He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40...

are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster..

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297

Jimmy Graham | TE | Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results

brees84 · 04-25-2020, 06:37 AM

So "UDFA training camp beasts" at WR position all over again. lol

Deepest draft at WR position maybe ever and you draft zero WRs...

Liked first two picks. This guy in 3rd round better be much more than blocking TE...

dizzle88 · 04-25-2020, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

So "UDFA training camp beasts" at WR position all over again. lol

Deepest draft at WR position maybe ever and you draft zero WRs...

Liked first two picks. This guy in 3rd round better be much more than blocking TE...

Yeah Payton completely ignoring WR year after year is getting annoying, these UDFA's dont see the active roster come gameday.

I do like the LB pick and the TE you mentioned, he caught 178 passes for over 2000 yards so seems more than a blocking TE.

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40...

are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster..

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297

Jimmy Graham | TE | Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results

2 tenths like the difference between a 4.33 and 4.53? Or is it closer to 3 tenths? Jimmy was running LB speed, and faster than many of the LB.

Either way I like the look of the kid. I hope he works put. He is definitely going to be a redzone weapon. Not sure you trade 4 picks, but sure we can pretend that's good, I guess.

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Yeah Payton completely ignoring WR year after year is getting annoying, these UDFA's dont see the active roster come gameday.

I do like the LB pick and the TE you mentioned, he caught 178 passes for over 2000 yards so seems more than a blocking TE.

Well you have to like out tight ends. Especially in the red zone. 4 picks though...

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Not that Dayton is a powerhouse, but it says something that this kid is #1 in rec and yds at Dayton all time. He's far from just a blocker.

he is, I think smash loaded some tape. Even though he is massively bigger than the rest of the guys, he can ctach and goes up for the ball.

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Wow. Fell asleep while waiting for the draft to begin.

I like the picks they made, and I'm not too upset that they gave up all of their picks this year to take the TE nor that they gave up next year's third round pick for the LB, since they are getting the comp pick.

If all three of these guys were really in their top 40, then that's great in my view - I'd rather have quality over quantity at this point when the Saints are chasing the Lombardi and not rebuilding.

Going into the draft, I heard from variety of sources that the Saints were going into the draft with the least amount of needs or holes to fill in their depth chart, so in light of that it makes sense they tried to limit the number of draftees and go for the guys with the best odds to succeed and contribute immediately.

And lets be honest, Hill is very average as a TE, so potentially getting a baller, who can help the run and screen game with his blocking prowness will be awesome.

And Anzalone played the entire 2018 season (16+2), so he has the ability to stay on the field contrary to what many are saying on these boards.

Hill is a beast blocking. A beast. Very underrated. If we end up with 3 starters that's good for any draft, I agree, but if we don't...doesn't leave a lot of room for error. That said we got good value for where we picked guys and thats good

st thomas · 04-25-2020, 08:02 AM

If they had those 3 picks rated top 40 if ( available )on there board man that’s awesome but compared to the 31 other boards I like to have that info.

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spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 08:03 AM

Per Larry Holder

It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2020, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

When you think about the fact that most of the day three picks might not make the roster anyway... Yeah a future 1st rounder is way more valuable.

That being said, I know nothing about Trautman and this is a head scratcher.

Exactly. Day three picks on a roster as deep as the Saints have right now would be nothing more than camp bodies and you can get those through UDFA. I love the move!!

04-25-2020, 05:18 AM	#921
Threaded by TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,990 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by spkb25 No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40... are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster.. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297 Jimmy Graham \| TE \| Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results
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04-25-2020, 06:37 AM	#922
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread So "UDFA training camp beasts" at WR position all over again. lol Deepest draft at WR position maybe ever and you draft zero WRs... Liked first two picks. This guy in 3rd round better be much more than blocking TE...
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04-25-2020, 07:33 AM	#923
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,895	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by brees84 So "UDFA training camp beasts" at WR position all over again. lol Deepest draft at WR position maybe ever and you draft zero WRs... Liked first two picks. This guy in 3rd round better be much more than blocking TE... Yeah Payton completely ignoring WR year after year is getting annoying, these UDFA's dont see the active roster come gameday. I do like the LB pick and the TE you mentioned, he caught 178 passes for over 2000 yards so seems more than a blocking TE.

04-25-2020, 07:35 AM	#924
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,065	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by TheOak He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40... are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster.. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297 Jimmy Graham \| TE \| Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results 2 tenths like the difference between a 4.33 and 4.53? Or is it closer to 3 tenths? Jimmy was running LB speed, and faster than many of the LB. Either way I like the look of the kid. I hope he works put. He is definitely going to be a redzone weapon. Not sure you trade 4 picks, but sure we can pretend that's good, I guess.

04-25-2020, 07:37 AM	#925
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,065	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by dizzle88 Yeah Payton completely ignoring WR year after year is getting annoying, these UDFA's dont see the active roster come gameday. I do like the LB pick and the TE you mentioned, he caught 178 passes for over 2000 yards so seems more than a blocking TE. Well you have to like out tight ends. Especially in the red zone. 4 picks though...

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04-25-2020, 07:38 AM	#926
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,065	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Not that Dayton is a powerhouse, but it says something that this kid is #1 in rec and yds at Dayton all time. He's far from just a blocker. he is, I think smash loaded some tape. Even though he is massively bigger than the rest of the guys, he can ctach and goes up for the ball.

04-25-2020, 07:41 AM	#927
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,065	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by FinSaint Wow. Fell asleep while waiting for the draft to begin. I like the picks they made, and I'm not too upset that they gave up all of their picks this year to take the TE nor that they gave up next year's third round pick for the LB, since they are getting the comp pick. If all three of these guys were really in their top 40, then that's great in my view - I'd rather have quality over quantity at this point when the Saints are chasing the Lombardi and not rebuilding. Going into the draft, I heard from variety of sources that the Saints were going into the draft with the least amount of needs or holes to fill in their depth chart, so in light of that it makes sense they tried to limit the number of draftees and go for the guys with the best odds to succeed and contribute immediately. And lets be honest, Hill is very average as a TE, so potentially getting a baller, who can help the run and screen game with his blocking prowness will be awesome. And Anzalone played the entire 2018 season (16+2), so he has the ability to stay on the field contrary to what many are saying on these boards. Hill is a beast blocking. A beast. Very underrated. If we end up with 3 starters that's good for any draft, I agree, but if we don't...doesn't leave a lot of room for error. That said we got good value for where we picked guys and thats good

04-25-2020, 08:02 AM	#928
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread If they had those 3 picks rated top 40 if ( available )on there board man that’s awesome but compared to the 31 other boards I like to have that info. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-25-2020, 08:03 AM	#929
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,065	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Per Larry Holder It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76 AsylumGuido likes this.

04-25-2020, 08:04 AM	#930
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 25,792	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by ChrisXVI When you think about the fact that most of the day three picks might not make the roster anyway... Yeah a future 1st rounder is way more valuable. That being said, I know nothing about Trautman and this is a head scratcher. Exactly. Day three picks on a roster as deep as the Saints have right now would be nothing more than camp bodies and you can get those through UDFA. I love the move!!