Saints Draft Days Official Thread

rezburna · 04-25-2020, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Sure, if the Saints want to be trendy, for no actual reason. There is no statistical analysis stating that a running QB leads to more wins. Last time I checked, QB's who are proficient at just passing the ball, still win games.

Every now and then, you get a couple of good years out of a "dual threat" guy, but then they start getting beat up. Which makes it financially irresponsible to run that style of offense, consistently. So, yeah, maybe they will change to that. Or maybe they won't. I'm getting a little tired of being told to "get ready" for it. as if it is somehow necessary that this happens.

I’m reading the tea leaves. Payton is a trendy kind of guy. When the 3-4 was big he wanted that. When the Seahawks Cover 3/Cover 1 system became the thing he wanted that. The mobile QB and RPO’s are the thing and now he wants that. I’m excited to see what the offense will look like with Hill or any other mobile QB they so choose. Shaking up the playbook has been long overdue.

The Dude · 04-25-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m reading the tea leaves. Payton is a trendy kind of guy. When the 3-4 was big he wanted that. When the Seahawks Cover 3/Cover 1 system became the thing he wanted that. The mobile QB and RPO’s are the thing and now he wants that. I’m excited to see what the offense will look like with Hill or any other mobile QB they so choose. Shaking up the playbook has been long overdue.

Idk. I think Payton tends to jump on defensive trends because defense really isn’t his strong suit. Offensively he is a trend setter. Look at all the teams that try and emulate him. I see Payton changing things based on personnel and what other defenses are doing.

rezburna · 04-25-2020, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Idk. I think Payton tends to jump on defensive trends because defense really isn’t his strong suit. Offensively he is a trend setter. Look at all the teams that try and emulate him. I see Payton changing things based on personnel and what other defenses are doing.

Sean used to be a trendsetter like 10 years ago. McVay and Pederson took over that mantle years ago.

burningmetal · 04-25-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m reading the tea leaves. Payton is a trendy kind of guy. When the 3-4 was big he wanted that. When the Seahawks Cover 3/Cover 1 system became the thing he wanted that. The mobile QB and RPO’s are the thing and now he wants that. I’m excited to see what the offense will look like with Hill or any other mobile QB they so choose. Shaking up the playbook has been long overdue.

Taysom Hill is not an NFL QB. I can't say that enough. He wasn't even a GOOD passer in college. What he is, is a great athlete. The Saints are using him right, when he is running routes and taking hand offs. They need to make that permanent, and stop squandering valuable playing time, by trying to make him a QB. It's beyond idiotic.

Stevens, like Taysom, was a terrible college passer. Stevens, UNLIKE Taysom, is NOT a great athlete. He's a "good" athlete. Nowhere near Taysom's level with the ball in his hands.

So IF Sean wants to do something else, he doesn't have the right QB to do it. Period.

rezburna · 04-25-2020, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Taysom Hill is not an NFL QB. I can't say that enough. He wasn't even a GOOD passer in college. What he is, is a great athlete. The Saints are using him right, when he is running routes and taking hand offs. They need to make that permanent, and stop squandering valuable playing time, by trying to make him a QB. It's beyond idiotic.

Stevens, like Taysom, was a terrible college passer. Stevens, UNLIKE Taysom, is NOT a great athlete. He's a "good" athlete. Nowhere near Taysom's level with the ball in his hands.

So IF Sean wants to do something else, he doesn't have the right QB to do it. Period.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but I am saying that Sean Payton might disagree with your analysis on whether or not Hill can play QB in this league. I think they believe he can, and I think you’ll see #7 under center next year.

burningmetal · 04-25-2020, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but I am saying that Sean Payton might disagree with your analysis on whether or not Hill can play QB in this league. I think they believe he can, and I think you’ll see #7 under center next year.

I'll just say that it would shock me if this ends up being true. It takes a blind man not to see that Taysom is not the future at QB.

I think Payton is being coy when he talks about the possibility. I have a hard time believing he is serious. I hope he's not.

04-25-2020, 05:46 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by burningmetal Sure, if the Saints want to be trendy, for no actual reason. There is no statistical analysis stating that a running QB leads to more wins. Last time I checked, QB's who are proficient at just passing the ball, still win games. Every now and then, you get a couple of good years out of a "dual threat" guy, but then they start getting beat up. Which makes it financially irresponsible to run that style of offense, consistently. So, yeah, maybe they will change to that. Or maybe they won't. I'm getting a little tired of being told to "get ready" for it. as if it is somehow necessary that this happens. I’m reading the tea leaves. Payton is a trendy kind of guy. When the 3-4 was big he wanted that. When the Seahawks Cover 3/Cover 1 system became the thing he wanted that. The mobile QB and RPO’s are the thing and now he wants that. I’m excited to see what the offense will look like with Hill or any other mobile QB they so choose. Shaking up the playbook has been long overdue.

04-25-2020, 05:55 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by rezburna I’m reading the tea leaves. Payton is a trendy kind of guy. When the 3-4 was big he wanted that. When the Seahawks Cover 3/Cover 1 system became the thing he wanted that. The mobile QB and RPO’s are the thing and now he wants that. I’m excited to see what the offense will look like with Hill or any other mobile QB they so choose. Shaking up the playbook has been long overdue. Idk. I think Payton tends to jump on defensive trends because defense really isn’t his strong suit. Offensively he is a trend setter. Look at all the teams that try and emulate him. I see Payton changing things based on personnel and what other defenses are doing.
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04-25-2020, 06:04 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by The Dude Idk. I think Payton tends to jump on defensive trends because defense really isn’t his strong suit. Offensively he is a trend setter. Look at all the teams that try and emulate him. I see Payton changing things based on personnel and what other defenses are doing. Sean used to be a trendsetter like 10 years ago. McVay and Pederson took over that mantle years ago.

04-25-2020, 05:55 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by rezburna I’m reading the tea leaves. Payton is a trendy kind of guy. When the 3-4 was big he wanted that. When the Seahawks Cover 3/Cover 1 system became the thing he wanted that. The mobile QB and RPO’s are the thing and now he wants that. I’m excited to see what the offense will look like with Hill or any other mobile QB they so choose. Shaking up the playbook has been long overdue. Taysom Hill is not an NFL QB. I can't say that enough. He wasn't even a GOOD passer in college. What he is, is a great athlete. The Saints are using him right, when he is running routes and taking hand offs. They need to make that permanent, and stop squandering valuable playing time, by trying to make him a QB. It's beyond idiotic. Stevens, like Taysom, was a terrible college passer. Stevens, UNLIKE Taysom, is NOT a great athlete. He's a "good" athlete. Nowhere near Taysom's level with the ball in his hands. So IF Sean wants to do something else, he doesn't have the right QB to do it. Period.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-25-2020, 06:06 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by burningmetal Taysom Hill is not an NFL QB. I can't say that enough. He wasn't even a GOOD passer in college. What he is, is a great athlete. The Saints are using him right, when he is running routes and taking hand offs. They need to make that permanent, and stop squandering valuable playing time, by trying to make him a QB. It's beyond idiotic. Stevens, like Taysom, was a terrible college passer. Stevens, UNLIKE Taysom, is NOT a great athlete. He's a "good" athlete. Nowhere near Taysom's level with the ball in his hands. So IF Sean wants to do something else, he doesn't have the right QB to do it. Period. I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but I am saying that Sean Payton might disagree with your analysis on whether or not Hill can play QB in this league. I think they believe he can, and I think you’ll see #7 under center next year.

04-25-2020, 06:11 PM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by rezburna I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but I am saying that Sean Payton might disagree with your analysis on whether or not Hill can play QB in this league. I think they believe he can, and I think you’ll see #7 under center next year. I'll just say that it would shock me if this ends up being true. It takes a blind man not to see that Taysom is not the future at QB. I think Payton is being coy when he talks about the possibility. I have a hard time believing he is serious. I hope he's not.