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lee909 04-27-2020 06:16 PM
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I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment.

Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that.

Just mumbling outloud

TheOak 04-27-2020 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 887601)
I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment.

Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that.

Just mumbling outloud
Those guys have always been around they just aren't durable enough to play as long as the pocket passers.

SmashMouth 04-27-2020 07:45 PM
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blackangold 04-27-2020 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 887596)
The 29th ranked defense could be a reason for them not contending last year.
Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position.

saintsfan1976 04-27-2020 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 887607)
Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position.
Also
3rd in the league in points scored on offense
11th in sacks (47!) three more and they're top 5
17th interceptions
8th in fumbles lost

So, now we've got a bunch of statistics to help tell whatever version of the truth we want...

K Major 04-27-2020 08:39 PM
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"He (Jameis) will learn more football in year than he has in his lifetime" - Jeff Ireland

nola_swammi 04-28-2020 02:52 AM
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I am just not feeling this move. If Brees go down we’re in trouble. Hopefully that 1st rounder is worth it, if not back to relying on Wardford and fingers crossed Brees survive

TheOak 04-28-2020 05:31 AM
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Tampa wasn’t a serious threat because of Winston, they had talent all over the field and are now considered SB contenders without Winston there...
What language is that, is my translation is close?

~ Where ever Tom Brady takes snaps is considered a SB contender.

vpheughan 04-28-2020 09:30 AM
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What language is that, is my translation is close?

~ Where ever Tom Brady takes snaps is considered a SB contender.
Like Unitas in San Diego and Namath in LA!

rezburna 04-28-2020 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 887607)
Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position.
And they were the 30th ranked pass defense. Quick...name a TB defensive back.

24th ranked rushing defense too. 23rd ranked offensive line I think?


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