Rate the Draft

saintsfan1976 · 04-28-2020, 06:56 AM

I rate it "Incomplete".

Until we see more, we don't know.

Budsdrinker · 04-28-2020, 07:38 AM

Don't have a problem with what we drafted. We filled some needs and as for giving up late round picks for Trautman, if he turns out half as good as I think he will, it was worth it. I went back and looked at our 5th thru 7th round picks since 2010 and we have had 25 picks and only 3 are still with the team and another 3 playing on other teams. Once you hit 5th round it's a crap-shoot. You can hit some stars but mostly just PS material.

st thomas · 04-28-2020, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Don't have a problem with what we drafted. We filled some needs and as for giving up late round picks for Trautman, if he turns out half as good as I think he will, it was worth it. I went back and looked at our 5th thru 7th round picks since 2010 and we have had 25 picks and only 3 are still with the team and another 3 playing on other teams. Once you hit 5th round it's a crap-shoot. You can hit some stars but mostly just PS material.

I have to agree It’s just did we give up a potential pick that may be a need next year that could fall but like u said shake the dice close your eyes and roll the MFers

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halloween 65 · 04-28-2020, 08:01 AM

If this was a math quiz getting 4( actual draft picks) out of 9( 5 draft picks total given up last year, this year, and next year) you would fail that quiz.Also, it's not set in stone these picks work out. I would give it a D simply for these facts.

AsylumGuido · 04-28-2020, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

If this was a math quiz getting 4( actual draft picks) out of 9( 5 draft picks total given up last year, this year, and next year) you would fail that quiz.Also, it's not set in stone these picks work out. I would give it a D simply for these facts.

Drafting isn't a math quiz. It is a fact that 65% of draft picks never make a 53 man roster. That means only 35% do make the roster. Four out of nine (if the four make the squad eventually) would be a success rate of 44%, which in itself would be better than the average.

K Major · 04-28-2020, 08:37 AM

I'm with 76 on the draft. Wait and see approach. It will take a year or two. Saints did ok. I think one or two could have an immediate impact in 2020. The Browns and Raiders seem to "nail" the draft every year.

At this level, all I ever hope for in the draft is that we select quality starters (Ramz, Armstead, David O) for years to come.

halloween 65 · 04-28-2020, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Drafting isn't a math quiz. It is a fact that 65% of draft picks never make a 53 man roster. That means only 35% do make the roster. Four out of nine (if the four make the squad eventually) would be a success rate of 44%, which in itself would be better than the average.

With 9 picks a team has a better chance at the 35% than just 4 picks at 35%. Law of average still applies. 35% of 4 or 35% of 9 ?

AsylumGuido · 04-28-2020, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

With 9 picks a team has a better chance at the 35% than just 4 picks at 35%. Law of average still applies. 35% of 4 or 35% of 9 ?

The vast majority of those that don't make it come from the 5-7 rounds. Those are the picks that we traded to move up and get players that the front office felt were "sure things".

Quality over quantity, especially for roster that are already very deep. Make no mistake about it, the Saints have one of the deepest rosters top to bottom in the entire league.

turbo_dog · 04-28-2020, 09:27 AM

I voted C, but I would say C+. I was very happy about Ruiz. I liked the pickup of Baum even with giving up another 3rd rounder. I was ok with Trautman, but thought we gave up a lot. I think it will be worth it if he plays as well in the NFL as he did at small school NCAA. I hated the trade back in for that QB, can't even be bothered to remember his name at the moment. I could go with B-, maybe.

Rugby Saint II · 04-28-2020, 09:28 AM

We need to see how well our new center does if we move McCoy to right guard. I have as good a feeling about him as McCoy last year. But I feel better because the front office knew we needed to upgrade center and guard. We've got a top 3 linebacker and an athletic looking tight end that has me excited. And we got another QB/joker in this draft as well. Nothing is written in stone on these guys but I'm giving them a B+ before I see them on the field.

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04-28-2020, 06:56 AM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rate the Draft I rate it "Incomplete". Until we see more, we don't know. K Major likes this.

04-28-2020, 07:38 AM	#12
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Rate the Draft Don't have a problem with what we drafted. We filled some needs and as for giving up late round picks for Trautman, if he turns out half as good as I think he will, it was worth it. I went back and looked at our 5th thru 7th round picks since 2010 and we have had 25 picks and only 3 are still with the team and another 3 playing on other teams. Once you hit 5th round it's a crap-shoot. You can hit some stars but mostly just PS material. st thomas likes this.

04-28-2020, 07:57 AM	#13
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Don't have a problem with what we drafted. We filled some needs and as for giving up late round picks for Trautman, if he turns out half as good as I think he will, it was worth it. I went back and looked at our 5th thru 7th round picks since 2010 and we have had 25 picks and only 3 are still with the team and another 3 playing on other teams. Once you hit 5th round it's a crap-shoot. You can hit some stars but mostly just PS material. I have to agree It’s just did we give up a potential pick that may be a need next year that could fall but like u said shake the dice close your eyes and roll the MFers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-28-2020, 08:01 AM	#14
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Rate the Draft If this was a math quiz getting 4( actual draft picks) out of 9( 5 draft picks total given up last year, this year, and next year) you would fail that quiz.Also, it's not set in stone these picks work out. I would give it a D simply for these facts.

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04-28-2020, 08:08 AM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 If this was a math quiz getting 4( actual draft picks) out of 9( 5 draft picks total given up last year, this year, and next year) you would fail that quiz.Also, it's not set in stone these picks work out. I would give it a D simply for these facts. Drafting isn't a math quiz. It is a fact that 65% of draft picks never make a 53 man roster. That means only 35% do make the roster. Four out of nine (if the four make the squad eventually) would be a success rate of 44%, which in itself would be better than the average. st thomas likes this.

04-28-2020, 08:37 AM	#16
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rate the Draft I'm with 76 on the draft. Wait and see approach. It will take a year or two. Saints did ok. I think one or two could have an immediate impact in 2020. The Browns and Raiders seem to "nail" the draft every year. At this level, all I ever hope for in the draft is that we select quality starters (Ramz, Armstead, David O) for years to come.

04-28-2020, 08:56 AM	#17
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Drafting isn't a math quiz. It is a fact that 65% of draft picks never make a 53 man roster. That means only 35% do make the roster. Four out of nine (if the four make the squad eventually) would be a success rate of 44%, which in itself would be better than the average. With 9 picks a team has a better chance at the 35% than just 4 picks at 35%. Law of average still applies. 35% of 4 or 35% of 9 ?

04-28-2020, 09:19 AM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Rate the Draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 With 9 picks a team has a better chance at the 35% than just 4 picks at 35%. Law of average still applies. 35% of 4 or 35% of 9 ? The vast majority of those that don't make it come from the 5-7 rounds. Those are the picks that we traded to move up and get players that the front office felt were "sure things". Quality over quantity, especially for roster that are already very deep. Make no mistake about it, the Saints have one of the deepest rosters top to bottom in the entire league. Rugby Saint II and darksoul35 like this.

04-28-2020, 09:27 AM	#19
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,540	Re: Rate the Draft I voted C, but I would say C+. I was very happy about Ruiz. I liked the pickup of Baum even with giving up another 3rd rounder. I was ok with Trautman, but thought we gave up a lot. I think it will be worth it if he plays as well in the NFL as he did at small school NCAA. I hated the trade back in for that QB, can't even be bothered to remember his name at the moment. I could go with B-, maybe.

04-28-2020, 09:28 AM	#20
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: Rate the Draft We need to see how well our new center does if we move McCoy to right guard. I have as good a feeling about him as McCoy last year. But I feel better because the front office knew we needed to upgrade center and guard. We've got a top 3 linebacker and an athletic looking tight end that has me excited. And we got another QB/joker in this draft as well. Nothing is written in stone on these guys but I'm giving them a B+ before I see them on the field. darksoul35 and MarchingOn like this.