Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford?

AsylumGuido · 05-14-2020, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

This is an excellent article https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...the-re-signing

Yes it is. I read it when it first came out way back in March. That's where I got the info about Peat's injuries being flukes:

Another point of contention for many fans is the injuries that Peat has sustained, but Duke made a good point to me during our conversation that those were injuries he simply couldn’t really avoid. Duke went as far as to list them out during our talk, “Here is the thing, it’s not a matter of him staying healthy himself, look at his injuries he’s had... has nothing to do with him. (They’re) all blunt force. Broken ankle while engaged and driving, pile rolls up on him. Broken hand, gets sandwiched between helmets. Broken arm, running back comes through and puts his helmet right in his forearm as he is engaged. He can’t control those things.”

TheOak · 05-14-2020, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes it is. I read it when it first came out way back in March. That's where I got the info about Peat's injuries being flukes:

Another point of contention for many fans is the injuries that Peat has sustained, but Duke made a good point to me during our conversation that those were injuries he simply couldn’t really avoid. Duke went as far as to list them out during our talk, “Here is the thing, it’s not a matter of him staying healthy himself, look at his injuries he’s had... has nothing to do with him. (They’re) all blunt force. Broken ankle while engaged and driving, pile rolls up on him. Broken hand, gets sandwiched between helmets. Broken arm, running back comes through and puts his helmet right in his forearm as he is engaged. He can’t control those things.”

I read that part. Each on itself was a fluke but repetitive flukes is a systemic issue which points to either conditioning, technique, fragility, or a horseshoe in the wrong position.

What he is proving to be is an accident looking for a place to happen. Time will tell if he finds a way to avoid all the flukes. At this point he has time and compensation on his side.

AsylumGuido · 05-14-2020, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I read that part. Each on itself was a fluke but repetitive flukes is a systemic issue which points to either conditioning, technique, fragility, or a horseshoe in the wrong position.

What he is proving to be is an accident looking for a place to happen. Time will tell if he finds a way to avoid all the flukes. At this point he has time and compensation on his side.

I tend to agree with the choice above. His coin was flipped and landed on tails several times in a row. He is due a break (no pun intended).

st thomas · 05-14-2020, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I tend to agree with the choice above. His coin was flipped and landed on tails several times in a row. He is due a break (no pun intended).

Tend to agree on just bad luck , has something to do with resigning For may be the end of his career if he fulfills

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hitta · 05-14-2020, 10:46 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if the long term plan is to replace both. We'll be drafting more guards. Peat is younger. Maybe they are hoping he can take some strides forward. Payton has a habit of pulling offensive linemen out of his ass. If Peat doesn't work out, someone else on the roster will step up.

K Major · 05-14-2020, 11:25 AM

Side bar on O linemen ...

Saw a recent tweet from Nick Underhill .. Jeff Ireland stated Saints had "pretty strong intel" that Miami and KC would take RUIZ.

He could be the real deal for years to come in New Orleans. Ramz, McKoy and now Ruiz on a good O line.

AsylumGuido · 05-14-2020, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Side bar on O linemen ...

Saw a recent tweet from Nick Underhill .. Jeff Ireland stated Saints had "pretty strong intel" that Miami and KC would take RUIZ.

He could be the real deal for years to come in New Orleans. Ramz, McKoy and now Ruiz on a good O line.

Yeah. I saw that somewhere, too. At least the KC connection. With McCoy being able to step out to guard where he can better use his talent, Peat hopefully avoiding the fluke injuries, Armstead repeating what was a great full season this past year, and Ramz ... just being Ramz, we can have easily the most dominant offensive line in the NFL for the next several years.

jeanpierre · 05-14-2020, 02:49 PM

Had been Team Peat up until last year when he supposedly had been rehabbing from injuries; those familiar with rehab know it's supervised training & conditioning for pro athletes...

Anyways, several members of this community noticed at the Yulman open practice during training camp that Peat walked onto the field overweight and was clearly out of shape - that's inexcusable...

Pros can have delicious meals prepared by world-class chefs guided by dieticians, their choice of degree'd, knowledgeable, exuberant personal trainers, massage therapists post-workouts, even limousine transport...

Now, I get it's hard to fully condition when you're rehabbing injuries, but when you're a pro athlete, and with the resources provided by the team, being overweight is tough for me to accept...

But Peat was kept because he is capable of playing two positions well, LG & LT, and the latter often with little notice; plus his age vs Warford's age and who also clearly didn't maintain his conditioning...

TheOak · 05-15-2020, 06:42 AM

Because every player deserves a pros debate to balance the cons.. This approach is from a unit point of view as an offensive line plays as unit and not a single player. I will start off with saying that had Drew not been freakishly injured Peat wouldn't have been in the cross-hairs as much for as long.

Why did the Saints keep the Offensive Line together?

#1 Rushing Offensive line in the league for 2019
#3 Pass protecting Offensive line in the league for 2019
#4 Least run stuffed Offensive line in the league for 2019
55% Of the time we run between the Guards 'GCG' space and our Offensive line is #1 in the league running there.

Peat doesn't get all the credit but no lineman does or should. Regardless of how i see Peat, I wouldn't screw that that volume of success either.

05-14-2020, 06:48 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by TheOak This is an excellent article https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...the-re-signing Yes it is. I read it when it first came out way back in March. That's where I got the info about Peat's injuries being flukes: Another point of contention for many fans is the injuries that Peat has sustained, but Duke made a good point to me during our conversation that those were injuries he simply couldn’t really avoid. Duke went as far as to list them out during our talk, “Here is the thing, it’s not a matter of him staying healthy himself, look at his injuries he’s had... has nothing to do with him. (They’re) all blunt force. Broken ankle while engaged and driving, pile rolls up on him. Broken hand, gets sandwiched between helmets. Broken arm, running back comes through and puts his helmet right in his forearm as he is engaged. He can’t control those things.” Rugby Saint II likes this.
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05-14-2020, 07:40 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes it is. I read it when it first came out way back in March. That's where I got the info about Peat's injuries being flukes: Another point of contention for many fans is the injuries that Peat has sustained, but Duke made a good point to me during our conversation that those were injuries he simply couldn’t really avoid. Duke went as far as to list them out during our talk, “Here is the thing, it’s not a matter of him staying healthy himself, look at his injuries he’s had... has nothing to do with him. (They’re) all blunt force. Broken ankle while engaged and driving, pile rolls up on him. Broken hand, gets sandwiched between helmets. Broken arm, running back comes through and puts his helmet right in his forearm as he is engaged. He can’t control those things.” I read that part. Each on itself was a fluke but repetitive flukes is a systemic issue which points to either conditioning, technique, fragility, or a horseshoe in the wrong position. What he is proving to be is an accident looking for a place to happen. Time will tell if he finds a way to avoid all the flukes. At this point he has time and compensation on his side. Rugby Saint II likes this.

05-14-2020, 10:46 AM	#5
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? I wouldn't be surprised if the long term plan is to replace both. We'll be drafting more guards. Peat is younger. Maybe they are hoping he can take some strides forward. Payton has a habit of pulling offensive linemen out of his ass. If Peat doesn't work out, someone else on the roster will step up.
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05-14-2020, 11:25 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Side bar on O linemen ... Saw a recent tweet from Nick Underhill .. Jeff Ireland stated Saints had "pretty strong intel" that Miami and KC would take RUIZ. He could be the real deal for years to come in New Orleans. Ramz, McKoy and now Ruiz on a good O line. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-14-2020, 11:42 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by K Major Side bar on O linemen ... Saw a recent tweet from Nick Underhill .. Jeff Ireland stated Saints had "pretty strong intel" that Miami and KC would take RUIZ. He could be the real deal for years to come in New Orleans. Ramz, McKoy and now Ruiz on a good O line. Yeah. I saw that somewhere, too. At least the KC connection. With McCoy being able to step out to guard where he can better use his talent, Peat hopefully avoiding the fluke injuries, Armstead repeating what was a great full season this past year, and Ramz ... just being Ramz, we can have easily the most dominant offensive line in the NFL for the next several years.

05-14-2020, 09:19 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by TheOak I read that part. Each on itself was a fluke but repetitive flukes is a systemic issue which points to either conditioning, technique, fragility, or a horseshoe in the wrong position. What he is proving to be is an accident looking for a place to happen. Time will tell if he finds a way to avoid all the flukes. At this point he has time and compensation on his side. I tend to agree with the choice above. His coin was flipped and landed on tails several times in a row. He is due a break (no pun intended).

05-14-2020, 10:30 AM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I tend to agree with the choice above. His coin was flipped and landed on tails several times in a row. He is due a break (no pun intended). Tend to agree on just bad luck , has something to do with resigning For may be the end of his career if he fulfills Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-14-2020, 02:49 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Had been Team Peat up until last year when he supposedly had been rehabbing from injuries; those familiar with rehab know it's supervised training & conditioning for pro athletes... Anyways, several members of this community noticed at the Yulman open practice during training camp that Peat walked onto the field overweight and was clearly out of shape - that's inexcusable... Pros can have delicious meals prepared by world-class chefs guided by dieticians, their choice of degree'd, knowledgeable, exuberant personal trainers, massage therapists post-workouts, even limousine transport... Now, I get it's hard to fully condition when you're rehabbing injuries, but when you're a pro athlete, and with the resources provided by the team, being overweight is tough for me to accept... But Peat was kept because he is capable of playing two positions well, LG & LT, and the latter often with little notice; plus his age vs Warford's age and who also clearly didn't maintain his conditioning... K Major likes this.
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05-15-2020, 06:42 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Because every player deserves a pros debate to balance the cons.. This approach is from a unit point of view as an offensive line plays as unit and not a single player. I will start off with saying that had Drew not been freakishly injured Peat wouldn't have been in the cross-hairs as much for as long. Why did the Saints keep the Offensive Line together? #1 Rushing Offensive line in the league for 2019 #3 Pass protecting Offensive line in the league for 2019 #4 Least run stuffed Offensive line in the league for 2019 55% Of the time we run between the Guards 'GCG' space and our Offensive line is #1 in the league running there. Peat doesn't get all the credit but no lineman does or should. Regardless of how i see Peat, I wouldn't screw that that volume of success either. AsylumGuido likes this.
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