Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford?

blackangold · 05-12-2020, 01:38 PM

Really nothing in this article that shows a clear and concise reason for these moves.

Saints felt his play dropped off, but he ranked 8th in the league.
Saints felt he wasn't in shape, but chose to keep a guy that never plays a full season.
That said, I don't mind moving on from Warford with Ruiz because it does put more speed on the line, which is critical.

Still don't understand the large contract for Peat.
- Never plays a full season, always hurt.
- When he is healthy he never grades out well on PFF, usually ranked behind backups.
- Opposing teams specifically target him in their game plans.
- Offensive numbers are better when he doesn't play.
So with all of the above, let's pay the guy like a top 10 OG....

AsylumGuido · 05-12-2020, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Really nothing in this article that shows a clear and concise reason for these moves.

Saints felt his play dropped off, but he ranked 8th in the league.
Saints felt he wasn't in shape, but chose to keep a guy that never plays a full season.
That said, I don't mind moving on from Warford with Ruiz because it does put more speed on the line, which is critical.

Still don't understand the large contract for Peat.
- Never plays a full season, always hurt.
- When he is healthy he never grades out well on PFF, usually ranked behind backups.
- Opposing teams specifically target him in their game plans.
- Offensive numbers are better when he doesn't play.
So with all of the above, let's pay the guy like a top 10 OG....

You'll never know the exact reasons unless you sit down with them and discuss it. Even after that you may feel you are more correct in your way of thinking than them their's. Personally, I would tend to trust their judgement given knowledge of all variables involved than anyone completely on the outside looking in.

One thing I do know is that Peat has been forced to play through three fluke broken bone injuries which had to have affected his effectiveness. Warford was just slow and out of shape.

blackangold · 05-12-2020, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You'll never know the exact reasons unless you sit down with them and discuss it. Even after that you may feel you are more correct in your way of thinking than them their's. Personally, I would tend to trust their judgement given knowledge of all variables involved than anyone completely on the outside looking in.

One thing I do know is that Peat has been forced to play through three fluke broken bone injuries which had to have affected his effectiveness. Warford was just slow and out of shape.

Sure, I just don't get the large contract. I wouldn't question bringing Peat back for a more reasonable rate. Hope I am wrong and he proves to be worth every penny.

AsylumGuido · 05-12-2020, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Sure, I just don't get the large contract. I wouldn't question bringing Peat back for a more reasonable rate. Hope I am wrong and he proves to be worth every penny.

The contract isn't as "big" as it seems. It is really a prove it deal. Only $23M of it is fully guaranteed. The other $10M is conditionally guaranteed if he is still on the roster AFTER this coming season. They can cut bait after the 2020 season with minimal dead cap. If he has a strong season he'll be worth the extra guarantee and then can be cut at any point after with no guarantees. I think they feel chances of him suffering yet another break is minimal.

TheOak · 05-14-2020, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

One thing I do know is that Peat has been forced to play through three fluke broken bone injuries which had to have affected his effectiveness.

Broken arm, concussion, quad, ankle, broken fibula, high ankle sprain. I only went back to Jan 2018.

Nothing about a fluke makes me look deeper, three flukes is suspect.

05-12-2020, 01:38 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Really nothing in this article that shows a clear and concise reason for these moves. Saints felt his play dropped off, but he ranked 8th in the league. Saints felt he wasn't in shape, but chose to keep a guy that never plays a full season. That said, I don't mind moving on from Warford with Ruiz because it does put more speed on the line, which is critical. Still don't understand the large contract for Peat. - Never plays a full season, always hurt. - When he is healthy he never grades out well on PFF, usually ranked behind backups. - Opposing teams specifically target him in their game plans. - Offensive numbers are better when he doesn't play. So with all of the above, let's pay the guy like a top 10 OG.... ScottF likes this.
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05-12-2020, 02:21 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,705	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by blackangold Really nothing in this article that shows a clear and concise reason for these moves. Saints felt his play dropped off, but he ranked 8th in the league. Saints felt he wasn't in shape, but chose to keep a guy that never plays a full season. That said, I don't mind moving on from Warford with Ruiz because it does put more speed on the line, which is critical. Still don't understand the large contract for Peat. - Never plays a full season, always hurt. - When he is healthy he never grades out well on PFF, usually ranked behind backups. - Opposing teams specifically target him in their game plans. - Offensive numbers are better when he doesn't play. So with all of the above, let's pay the guy like a top 10 OG.... You'll never know the exact reasons unless you sit down with them and discuss it. Even after that you may feel you are more correct in your way of thinking than them their's. Personally, I would tend to trust their judgement given knowledge of all variables involved than anyone completely on the outside looking in. One thing I do know is that Peat has been forced to play through three fluke broken bone injuries which had to have affected his effectiveness. Warford was just slow and out of shape.

05-12-2020, 03:21 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You'll never know the exact reasons unless you sit down with them and discuss it. Even after that you may feel you are more correct in your way of thinking than them their's. Personally, I would tend to trust their judgement given knowledge of all variables involved than anyone completely on the outside looking in. One thing I do know is that Peat has been forced to play through three fluke broken bone injuries which had to have affected his effectiveness. Warford was just slow and out of shape. Sure, I just don't get the large contract. I wouldn't question bringing Peat back for a more reasonable rate. Hope I am wrong and he proves to be worth every penny.

05-12-2020, 04:21 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,705	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by blackangold Sure, I just don't get the large contract. I wouldn't question bringing Peat back for a more reasonable rate. Hope I am wrong and he proves to be worth every penny. The contract isn't as "big" as it seems. It is really a prove it deal. Only $23M of it is fully guaranteed. The other $10M is conditionally guaranteed if he is still on the roster AFTER this coming season. They can cut bait after the 2020 season with minimal dead cap. If he has a strong season he'll be worth the extra guarantee and then can be cut at any point after with no guarantees. I think they feel chances of him suffering yet another break is minimal. blackangold likes this.

05-14-2020, 05:45 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Why did the Saints choose Andrus Peat over Larry Warford? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido One thing I do know is that Peat has been forced to play through three fluke broken bone injuries which had to have affected his effectiveness. Broken arm, concussion, quad, ankle, broken fibula, high ankle sprain. I only went back to Jan 2018. Nothing about a fluke makes me look deeper, three flukes is suspect.

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