Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

Jamis Winston is in his 6th season, he is what he is. We may not know what that is yet.

You can't change the way a person thinks and processes. I am sure some of you rolled your eyes (which proves my point :p)... Look at you and all around you, some people here never admit they are not correct and some do so with merely one rational reply. You cant change that. You might change their opinion on a subject but not the way they think and the way Jamis thinks or doesn't is what get him into trouble.

It takes maturation to develop reasoning and the objective understanding otherwise known as intellect. Maybe something in Jamis's life changed his process in the last year or so but that has to come from within. 26 years old is not considered within the 12-22 +/- impressionable years. It is quite possible that something happened to change Jamis into a bad decision machine (Heisman ego) and he could have come back to earth. Tampa Bay has always been a sh1tshow from the neck up and the NFL sending first round draft picks to the biggest sh1tshows in the league is in fact setting them up to fail.

Beyond that, why does Jamis Winston need a defense. New team, new season, new start..

...and btw, you cant have a gunslinger spectrum without Favre mentioned lol.

Welcome to the team Jamis. Please shut up and play. :bng:

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

Hope the Lasik helps.

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

I won't disagree that you can't change the way a person thinks, in the sense that you can't change that person by yourself. But it is absolutely true that you can influence a person to introspect and ultimately come to a realization that change is necessary. Whether they ever admit it, out loud, is irrelevant.

Everyone has to make the choice to change, so we agree in that regard. But it helps to get a nudge in the right direction from a person you respect. I'm not sure anyone on the Saints coaching staff is that type of mentor, but maybe Brees is. If we can take what Winston says seriously, he has already been steered in the right direction. But, as others have stated, it remains to be seen if his public statements translate to reality.

At any rate, he's just the backup right now, and I don't know who was going to be any better in that role who was available. So if he shows no signs of maturity, on or off the field, over the next year, then he walks. So I don't see this as a big risk. But there is at least potential for a substantial reward.

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

^^^^^^^^^^ This right here ^^^^^^^.

Say that louder for the ones in the back who may have missed it.

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

I agree with every word of what you said. Trying to process that thought now. It's pretty damned frustrating when I can't disagree with you on something. It's a cross I have to bear.

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

Well, when you actually listen to what I have to say, instead of searching for a reason to disagree, you'd be surprised at how much you might not despise me.

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

"you can't fix stupid"

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

So in stead of just agreeing with me, you say you won’t disagree with me and say what I said differently lol. :cool:

See that part about maturation and objective understanding? That has to happen before someone is open to anything other than what he has mind set on. Either that or a life event, the loss of a loved one or job can disillusion someone quickly sometimes.

Thank you for opening with not disagreeing with me, I know that couldn’t have been easy. I’m not laughing at you, I’m laughing with you. :bng:

Re: In Defense of Jameis Winston
 

In all fairness I am not the person I was at 26 or 30 or even 35. It takes some longer than others to get their **** together. I was an absolute crazy person at 26. I look back at some of the decisions I made back then and wonder how in the hell I rationalized some of my actions.
Hopefully it comes to Winston sooner rather than later. It’s sad to think about someone like him looking back in old age regretting all the talent he wasted.