Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

TheOak · 06-05-2020, 07:22 AM

I invite all of you to stop and read the 14 pages here. Everyone using different words but sounding the same; everyone wanting to be heard, but no one is listening.

Try continuing without using they or them. This country is divided into two, 'We the People' and 'the government'.

Rez made a point about what is genuine and what isn't. If you have genuine reverence for the flag you don't fly it once it is tattered, you do not fly it in inclement weather... There are 3-4 pages of etiquette and flag code regarding the United States flag that are relatively unknown much less followed by most people yelling "respect the flag".

Calls for respect for the flag feel hollow to this Veteran. They feel more like talking points than an understanding.

spkb25 · 06-05-2020, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I invite all of you to stop and read the 14 pages here. Everyone using different words but sounding the same; everyone wanting to be heard, but no one is listening.

Try continuing without using they or them. This country is divided into two, 'We the People' and 'the government'.

Rez made a point about what is genuine and what isn't. If you have genuine reverence for the flag you don't fly it once it is tattered, you do not fly it in inclement weather... There are 3-4 pages of etiquette and rules regarding the United States flag that are relatively unknown much less followed by most people yelling "respect the flag".

Calls for respect for the flag feel hollow to this Veteran. They feel more like talking points than an understanding.

This is the cry of the liberal lunatic pretending to be moderate.

When my son sees a group and asks if they're like Mommy because they're black, ill let him know, no son mommy is Haitian. Theyre black American men. They like weed, 40 oz beer, and blaming qhite people. Stay the F away!

TheOak · 06-05-2020, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

This is the cry of the liberal lunatic pretending to be moderate.

When my son sees a group and asks if they're like Mommy because they're black, ill let him know, no son mommy is Haitian. Theyre black American men. They like weed, 40 oz beer, and blaming qhite people. Stay the F away!

I am possibly misunderstanding your reply. You are referring to me as liberal?

spkb25 · 06-05-2020, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I am possibly misunderstanding your reply. You are referring to me as liberal?

Well, when you say people need to listen to obvious BS, uh yeah.

TheOak · 06-05-2020, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Well, when you say people need to listen to obvious BS, uh yeah.

Do you have children? Sometimes what they have difficulty saying what they mean; the only way to know is to listen, ask questions, and listen to the answers. Emotional adults can be the same way.

If just hearing someone out is something you consider "liberal" then in your mind I suppose I am liberal.

spkb25 · 06-05-2020, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Do you have children? Sometimes what they have difficulty saying what they mean; the only way to know is to listen, ask questions, and listen to the answers. Emotional adults can be the same way.

If just hearing someone out is something you consider "liberal" then in your mind I suppose I am liberal.

My son is 21 months, he's doing great. It helps thtat he's not completely full of ****, makes understanding him much easier

TheOak · 06-05-2020, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

My son is 21 months, he's doing great. It helps thtat he's not completely full of ****, makes understanding him much easier

I grew up being able to run through the streets of my town safely (except for my own stupid ideas) as young as 8... My daughters aren't safe going to the end of the block alone. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with communities being divided which allows sociopaths to navigate unnoticed between the cracks and prey on targets of opportunity.

That is not going to get fixed playing us vs them.

Cops shoot and kill 1000 people a year (documented statistic). Given the level of stress involved in those situations I assume at the very least 5% error. That is 50 innocent people killed every year. Since 2007 only 35 cops have been convicted of a bad shooting. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with Americans fighting with each other rather than their government.

That is not going to get fixed playing us vs them.

If you want to call me liberal for not being sucked into a false dichotomy... That is fine by me, the liberals call me Alt-Right for the same reason. I am comfortable on my island of clarity and peace.

Its like watching two kids fight over an ice cream while a rabid dog licks the cone clean.

Lord_Saint83 · 06-05-2020, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

This is the cry of the liberal lunatic pretending to be moderate.

When my son sees a group and asks if they're like Mommy because they're black, ill let him know, no son mommy is Haitian. Theyre black American men. They like weed, 40 oz beer, and blaming qhite people. Stay the F away!

I’m black and I don’t smoke weed, drink beer, or blame white people for nothing. I served this country and what I have I've worked hard for. What you’re saying is really out there. And I’am a moderate also so don’t say I’m a liberal cause that is far from the truth

spkb25 · 06-05-2020, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

I’m black and I don’t smoke weed, drink beer, or blame white people for nothing. I served this country and what I have I've worked hard for. What you’re saying is really out there. And I’am a moderate also so don’t say I’m a liberal cause that is far from the truth

I said black American men. You apparently don't understand that black people feom other countries have better family values and work ethic than black American men, they do

Lord_Saint83 · 06-05-2020, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I said black American men. You apparently don't understand that black people feom other countries have better family values and work ethic than black American men, they do

I'am a black American just like my father and grandfathers that also served for this country. I come from a military family and grew up in a strict home. The majority of black American do. Its the minority that gives the majority a bad name. Like with cops the majority of cops are good but it’s the few bad ones that give them a bad name.

06-05-2020, 07:22 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments I invite all of you to stop and read the 14 pages here. Everyone using different words but sounding the same; everyone wanting to be heard, but no one is listening. Try continuing without using they or them. This country is divided into two, 'We the People' and 'the government'. Rez made a point about what is genuine and what isn't. If you have genuine reverence for the flag you don't fly it once it is tattered, you do not fly it in inclement weather... There are 3-4 pages of etiquette and flag code regarding the United States flag that are relatively unknown much less followed by most people yelling "respect the flag". Calls for respect for the flag feel hollow to this Veteran. They feel more like talking points than an understanding.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

06-05-2020, 07:33 AM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by TheOak I invite all of you to stop and read the 14 pages here. Everyone using different words but sounding the same; everyone wanting to be heard, but no one is listening. Try continuing without using they or them. This country is divided into two, 'We the People' and 'the government'. Rez made a point about what is genuine and what isn't. If you have genuine reverence for the flag you don't fly it once it is tattered, you do not fly it in inclement weather... There are 3-4 pages of etiquette and rules regarding the United States flag that are relatively unknown much less followed by most people yelling "respect the flag". Calls for respect for the flag feel hollow to this Veteran. They feel more like talking points than an understanding. This is the cry of the liberal lunatic pretending to be moderate. When my son sees a group and asks if they're like Mommy because they're black, ill let him know, no son mommy is Haitian. Theyre black American men. They like weed, 40 oz beer, and blaming qhite people. Stay the F away!

06-05-2020, 07:36 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by spkb25 This is the cry of the liberal lunatic pretending to be moderate. When my son sees a group and asks if they're like Mommy because they're black, ill let him know, no son mommy is Haitian. Theyre black American men. They like weed, 40 oz beer, and blaming qhite people. Stay the F away! I am possibly misunderstanding your reply. You are referring to me as liberal?

06-05-2020, 07:43 AM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by TheOak I am possibly misunderstanding your reply. You are referring to me as liberal? Well, when you say people need to listen to obvious BS, uh yeah. skymike likes this.

06-05-2020, 07:57 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by spkb25 Well, when you say people need to listen to obvious BS, uh yeah. Do you have children? Sometimes what they have difficulty saying what they mean; the only way to know is to listen, ask questions, and listen to the answers. Emotional adults can be the same way. If just hearing someone out is something you consider "liberal" then in your mind I suppose I am liberal.

06-05-2020, 08:01 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by TheOak Do you have children? Sometimes what they have difficulty saying what they mean; the only way to know is to listen, ask questions, and listen to the answers. Emotional adults can be the same way. If just hearing someone out is something you consider "liberal" then in your mind I suppose I am liberal. My son is 21 months, he's doing great. It helps thtat he's not completely full of ****, makes understanding him much easier

06-05-2020, 08:34 AM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by spkb25 My son is 21 months, he's doing great. It helps thtat he's not completely full of ****, makes understanding him much easier I grew up being able to run through the streets of my town safely (except for my own stupid ideas) as young as 8... My daughters aren't safe going to the end of the block alone. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with communities being divided which allows sociopaths to navigate unnoticed between the cracks and prey on targets of opportunity. That is not going to get fixed playing us vs them. Cops shoot and kill 1000 people a year (documented statistic). Given the level of stress involved in those situations I assume at the very least 5% error. That is 50 innocent people killed every year. Since 2007 only 35 cops have been convicted of a bad shooting. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with Americans fighting with each other rather than their government. That is not going to get fixed playing us vs them. If you want to call me liberal for not being sucked into a false dichotomy... That is fine by me, the liberals call me Alt-Right for the same reason. I am comfortable on my island of clarity and peace. Its like watching two kids fight over an ice cream while a rabid dog licks the cone clean.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

06-05-2020, 07:48 AM	#8
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by spkb25 This is the cry of the liberal lunatic pretending to be moderate. When my son sees a group and asks if they're like Mommy because they're black, ill let him know, no son mommy is Haitian. Theyre black American men. They like weed, 40 oz beer, and blaming qhite people. Stay the F away! I’m black and I don’t smoke weed, drink beer, or blame white people for nothing. I served this country and what I have I've worked hard for. What you’re saying is really out there. And I’am a moderate also so don’t say I’m a liberal cause that is far from the truth

06-05-2020, 07:58 AM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 I’m black and I don’t smoke weed, drink beer, or blame white people for nothing. I served this country and what I have I've worked hard for. What you’re saying is really out there. And I’am a moderate also so don’t say I’m a liberal cause that is far from the truth I said black American men. You apparently don't understand that black people feom other countries have better family values and work ethic than black American men, they do

06-05-2020, 08:32 AM	#10
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by spkb25 I said black American men. You apparently don't understand that black people feom other countries have better family values and work ethic than black American men, they do I'am a black American just like my father and grandfathers that also served for this country. I come from a military family and grew up in a strict home. The majority of black American do. Its the minority that gives the majority a bad name. Like with cops the majority of cops are good but it’s the few bad ones that give them a bad name.

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