Season over before it starts

AsylumGuido · 06-24-2020, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by St. Sherman

Sure, I get what you are saying. I was also a season ticket holder for over 12 years (family season tickets since day 1). The last game I saw the saints play live was in London. Only then because that trip was already booked for sometime. Did not renew my season tickets and have not stepped foot in the superdome since. I don't watch my kids throw their tantrums so why would I buy a ticket and $9.00 beers to watch rich spoiled kids throw one?

Fantasy Football/gambling has made the NFL as popular as it is now and will continue for the future, until it doesn't. The end of the NFL could come from injuries, a general decline in talent or more than likely the greed of the owners and players. I don't care which one finished the job.

The NFL should outlive us all. And I would have bought those season ticket rights from you. We've been on the waiting list for over 15 years. I don't care what players do before games or off the field. I love the game for what it is ... entertainment. Life is too important to let anything to do with the fringe activities ruin my good time. Sure, I get bummed by a loss or a horrible call, but I let everything else roll off my back and even those don't stick with me for long.

frydaddy · 06-24-2020, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The NFL should outlive us all. And I would have bought those season ticket rights from you. We've been on the waiting list for over 15 years. I don't care what players do before games or off the field. I love the game for what it is ... entertainment. Life is too important to let anything to do with the fringe activities ruin my good time. Sure, I get bummed by a loss or a horrible call, but I let everything else roll off my back and even those don't stick with me for long.

Lol, the game won't outlive us all. Perhaps a more accurate statement would be the game *should have* outlived us all. If it were not run by a cavalcade of morons it would have a long life yet, but unless they reverse course quickly it will hit a peak and then start to plummet in the next few years. I'm not even factoring in all of the political bs, this is strictly based off of the neverending rule changes that are eroding the very essence of the game, and the terrible leadership of the owners and their puppet Goodell. The political stuff will lead to a faster end as well. Rest assured, now that the league has bent the knee (no pun intended) to BLM, more and more of these fringe groups will come demanding that the NFL bow to them as well. Next in line will be the LGBTHIJKLMNOP+ people. They tried a few years ago with the whole Michael Sam thing but the timing wasn't quite right. They'll be back in full force, the league will cave, alienate even more fans, then the next group will come along..lather, rinse, repeat. You're probably correct in your continual insistence that there aren't that many people upset enough about the kneeling to quit watching (though I'm equally as certain that you underestimate how many people are already at that point) but it will get there soon enough. Get whatever enjoyment you can from it while you still can, by all means. But you're kidding yourself if you honestly think the league isn't in serious trouble.

neugey · 06-23-2020, 04:57 PM

Cmon guys, you gotta have faith!

Limp Bizkit - Faith - YouTube

AsylumGuido · 06-23-2020, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Cmon guys, you gotta have faith!

Agree ... but this was always my version ...

YouTube

The Dude · 06-24-2020, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Cmon guys, you gotta have faith!

Limp Bizkit - Faith - YouTube

That was God awful. I will never be able unsee that.

neugey · 06-24-2020, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That was God awful. I will never be able unsee that.

The original is obviously better, but the Bizkit one is just demented fun. The heavy outbursts combined with the awkward lyric delivery, it was always tongue-in-cheek to me.

WillMacKenzie · 06-24-2020, 05:16 PM

I didn't watch a single game two years ago, I won't again this year. It wasn't so bad, I watched college football. (and I'll stop even watching that if I have to)

There's a difference between sports and entertainment, by the way. One promises fair, unbiased contests in which the outcome is dictated by skill and preparation.

The other promises only the appearance of those ideals, but ultimately, operate only for maximum drama and profit.

So what does winning even matter if there's nothing real at stake?

I personally don't find it entertaining or enjoyable to be lectured about what I should be doing and what a piece of trash my country is and how I need to apologize for something somebody who looks like me did to do to someone who looks like him.

People can do what they want, but I can see how one would have to keep telling themselves it's only entertainment to chase away their own objections like a chaser after a teaspoon of harsh medicine.

AsylumGuido · 06-24-2020, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I didn't watch a single game two years ago, I won't again this year. It wasn't so bad, I watched college football. (and I'll stop even watching that if I have to)

There's a difference between sports and entertainment, by the way. One promises fair, unbiased contests in which the outcome is dictated by skill and preparation.

The other promises only the appearance of those ideals, but ultimately, operate only for maximum drama and profit.

So what does winning even matter if there's nothing real at stake?

I personally don't find it entertaining or enjoyable to be lectured about what I should be doing and what a piece of trash my country is and how I need to apologize for something somebody who looks like me did to do to someone who looks like him.

People can do what they want, but I can see how one would have to keep telling themselves it's only entertainment to chase away their own objections like a chaser after a teaspoon of harsh medicine.

Bye, bye! I enjoy the NFL as a game. Entertainment. If you can't handle that then by all means stop watching. You really won't be missed.

Your problem is truly elsewhere.

Edit: Why are you even still posting football related posting if you gave up on it two years ago? I have a feeling you are full of crap and had indeed watched games.

Oh, 19-0 Baby!

WillMacKenzie · 06-24-2020, 05:32 PM

It's only entertainment. Yep, got it.

mapcow · 06-27-2020, 11:58 AM

With you on this one.....sad situation

06-24-2020, 02:28 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by St. Sherman Sure, I get what you are saying. I was also a season ticket holder for over 12 years (family season tickets since day 1). The last game I saw the saints play live was in London. Only then because that trip was already booked for sometime. Did not renew my season tickets and have not stepped foot in the superdome since. I don't watch my kids throw their tantrums so why would I buy a ticket and $9.00 beers to watch rich spoiled kids throw one? Fantasy Football/gambling has made the NFL as popular as it is now and will continue for the future, until it doesn't. The end of the NFL could come from injuries, a general decline in talent or more than likely the greed of the owners and players. I don't care which one finished the job. The NFL should outlive us all. And I would have bought those season ticket rights from you. We've been on the waiting list for over 15 years. I don't care what players do before games or off the field. I love the game for what it is ... entertainment. Life is too important to let anything to do with the fringe activities ruin my good time. Sure, I get bummed by a loss or a horrible call, but I let everything else roll off my back and even those don't stick with me for long.

06-24-2020, 03:49 PM	#2
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The NFL should outlive us all. And I would have bought those season ticket rights from you. We've been on the waiting list for over 15 years. I don't care what players do before games or off the field. I love the game for what it is ... entertainment. Life is too important to let anything to do with the fringe activities ruin my good time. Sure, I get bummed by a loss or a horrible call, but I let everything else roll off my back and even those don't stick with me for long. Lol, the game won't outlive us all. Perhaps a more accurate statement would be the game should have outlived us all. If it were not run by a cavalcade of morons it would have a long life yet, but unless they reverse course quickly it will hit a peak and then start to plummet in the next few years. I'm not even factoring in all of the political bs, this is strictly based off of the neverending rule changes that are eroding the very essence of the game, and the terrible leadership of the owners and their puppet Goodell. The political stuff will lead to a faster end as well. Rest assured, now that the league has bent the knee (no pun intended) to BLM, more and more of these fringe groups will come demanding that the NFL bow to them as well. Next in line will be the LGBTHIJKLMNOP+ people. They tried a few years ago with the whole Michael Sam thing but the timing wasn't quite right. They'll be back in full force, the league will cave, alienate even more fans, then the next group will come along..lather, rinse, repeat. You're probably correct in your continual insistence that there aren't that many people upset enough about the kneeling to quit watching (though I'm equally as certain that you underestimate how many people are already at that point) but it will get there soon enough. Get whatever enjoyment you can from it while you still can, by all means. But you're kidding yourself if you honestly think the league isn't in serious trouble. iceshack149 and SaintGup like this.
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06-24-2020, 06:24 AM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by neugey Cmon guys, you gotta have faith! Limp Bizkit - Faith - YouTube That was God awful. I will never be able unsee that.
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06-24-2020, 08:14 AM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by The Dude That was God awful. I will never be able unsee that. The original is obviously better, but the Bizkit one is just demented fun. The heavy outbursts combined with the awkward lyric delivery, it was always tongue-in-cheek to me.

06-24-2020, 05:16 PM	#7
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Season over before it starts I didn't watch a single game two years ago, I won't again this year. It wasn't so bad, I watched college football. (and I'll stop even watching that if I have to) There's a difference between sports and entertainment, by the way. One promises fair, unbiased contests in which the outcome is dictated by skill and preparation. The other promises only the appearance of those ideals, but ultimately, operate only for maximum drama and profit. So what does winning even matter if there's nothing real at stake? I personally don't find it entertaining or enjoyable to be lectured about what I should be doing and what a piece of trash my country is and how I need to apologize for something somebody who looks like me did to do to someone who looks like him. People can do what they want, but I can see how one would have to keep telling themselves it's only entertainment to chase away their own objections like a chaser after a teaspoon of harsh medicine.

06-24-2020, 05:22 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I didn't watch a single game two years ago, I won't again this year. It wasn't so bad, I watched college football. (and I'll stop even watching that if I have to) There's a difference between sports and entertainment, by the way. One promises fair, unbiased contests in which the outcome is dictated by skill and preparation. The other promises only the appearance of those ideals, but ultimately, operate only for maximum drama and profit. So what does winning even matter if there's nothing real at stake? I personally don't find it entertaining or enjoyable to be lectured about what I should be doing and what a piece of trash my country is and how I need to apologize for something somebody who looks like me did to do to someone who looks like him. People can do what they want, but I can see how one would have to keep telling themselves it's only entertainment to chase away their own objections like a chaser after a teaspoon of harsh medicine. Bye, bye! I enjoy the NFL as a game. Entertainment. If you can't handle that then by all means stop watching. You really won't be missed. Your problem is truly elsewhere. Edit: Why are you even still posting football related posting if you gave up on it two years ago? I have a feeling you are full of crap and had indeed watched games. Oh, 19-0 Baby!

06-24-2020, 05:32 PM	#9
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Season over before it starts It's only entertainment. Yep, got it. Danno likes this.

06-27-2020, 11:58 AM	#10
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Season over before it starts With you on this one.....sad situation
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