Season over before it starts

TheOak · 06-08-2020, 07:53 AM

I am sitting here at work and none of what you have listed has changed my responsibility to my family and my employer. Going out on a limb I suspect that none of what you listed will change the players responsibility in regards to those two things either.

The Saints are a team but a highly compartmentalized team as all NFL teams are. This isn't Friday Night Lights, they don't all gather in the auditorium and listen to Sean Payton every day. The line isn't going to let Drew get crushed, they all want bonus money for play off games and good stats/grades so that their next contract is as large as it can be. I am willing to bet that at least 1 player on that team has said "if Drew isn't behind us, so be it. I didn't need him him to get mine yesterday and I do not need him to get mine tomorrow." If what Drew said impacted players as much as the media says it did, Loomis would have a pile of trade requests on his desk.

Fan speculation is ignorant.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGup

Always looked forward to NFL. Not now. Can't stand people who suck up, apologize for no reason and buy into all the bs that is coming out.

I am still looking forward to the NFL, more so now than in a long time. Trying to make it out as anything more important than entertainment is missing the target.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I am sitting here at work and none of what you have listed has changed my responsibility to my family and my employer. Going out on a limb I suspect that none of what you listed will change the players responsibility in regards to those two things either.

The Saints are a team but a highly compartmentalized team as all NFL teams are. This isn't Friday Night Lights, they don't all gather in the auditorium and listen to Sean Payton every day. The line isn't going to let Drew get crushed, they all want bonus money for play off games and good stats/grades so that their next contract is as large as it can be. I am willing to bet that at least 1 player on that team has said "if Drew isn't behind us, so be it. I didn't need him him to get mine yesterday and I do not need him to get mine tomorrow." If what Drew said impacted players as much as the media says it did, Loomis would have a pile of trade requests on his desk.

Fan speculation is ignorant.

Amen!

Pete · 06-08-2020, 08:52 AM

Players will be gunning for #9 hard and I believe he'll die on his sword outwitting most of them.
The rest can eat a bag of you know what..
It'll be an interesting season to say the least and will be a grest day for humanity when røgerr disappears for good.
I was saddened to see the players hit Drew that hard.I lost a hell of alot of respect for a few of them.

K Major · 06-08-2020, 10:56 AM

"Don't press SEND!" - Herman Edwards. 2011 NFL Rookie symposium. In a moment of anger, sometimes people say things they don't mean.

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Beastmode · 06-08-2020, 11:20 AM

During the anthem have new black recruit police on the field. Tribute to them and all who fight for equal justice and freedom. Something we can all stand up and honor.

Rugby Saint II · 06-08-2020, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

During the anthem have new black recruit police on the field. Tribute to them and all who fight for equal justice and freedom. Something we can all stand up and honor.

Now you're giving us a solution to the problem. It's not a demonstration with looting and damaging private businesses....many owners of the same color as the rioters doing most of the damage.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Now you're giving us a solution to the problem. It's not a demonstration with looting and damaging private businesses....many owners of the same color as the rioters doing most of the damage.

I have mentioned this before, but, there have been three distinct groups of individuals involved in these protests/demonstrations/riots ...

1) Conscientious peaceful protesters who truly wish for change,

2) organized individuals promoting violence for self-glorification, headline grabbing, or other various reasons,

3) and then those that have no real interest or feelings about "the cause" at all and are only in it for the merchandise or the thrill of destruction.

I feel that first group makes up 90% or more of the individuals out on the streets. Maybe seven or eight percent make up that third group. It is the small number in the second group that gives the first group a bad name and enables the third group.

Rugby Saint II · 06-09-2020, 04:32 PM

Personally, I believe that this will galvanize the team and our O-line will be playing at it's finest to protect Drew from anyone looking for revenge. If someone does come after Drew he is a marked man.

In rugby if a player is playing dirty and going after a particular player the entire team goes after him and quite often he has to hobble or be carried off the pitch. There is this thing called team loyalty! I have come to the defense of a team mate that I disliked but he was my team mate and that is what mattered at the time.

SaintGup · 06-13-2020, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am still looking forward to the NFL, more so now than in a long time. Trying to make it out as anything more important than entertainment is missing the target.

I am just sick of people bowing and scraping to placate the minority and you can have a fair bet on when the season starts, there will be more sucking up before the first game. So no, I haven't missed the target. I know exactly what I want from sports and this isn't it.

06-08-2020, 07:53 AM	#11
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Season over before it starts I am sitting here at work and none of what you have listed has changed my responsibility to my family and my employer. Going out on a limb I suspect that none of what you listed will change the players responsibility in regards to those two things either. The Saints are a team but a highly compartmentalized team as all NFL teams are. This isn't Friday Night Lights, they don't all gather in the auditorium and listen to Sean Payton every day. The line isn't going to let Drew get crushed, they all want bonus money for play off games and good stats/grades so that their next contract is as large as it can be. I am willing to bet that at least 1 player on that team has said "if Drew isn't behind us, so be it. I didn't need him him to get mine yesterday and I do not need him to get mine tomorrow." If what Drew said impacted players as much as the media says it did, Loomis would have a pile of trade requests on his desk. Fan speculation is ignorant. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 3 others like this.
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06-08-2020, 08:45 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by SaintGup Always looked forward to NFL. Not now. Can't stand people who suck up, apologize for no reason and buy into all the bs that is coming out. I am still looking forward to the NFL, more so now than in a long time. Trying to make it out as anything more important than entertainment is missing the target.

06-08-2020, 08:46 AM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by TheOak I am sitting here at work and none of what you have listed has changed my responsibility to my family and my employer. Going out on a limb I suspect that none of what you listed will change the players responsibility in regards to those two things either. The Saints are a team but a highly compartmentalized team as all NFL teams are. This isn't Friday Night Lights, they don't all gather in the auditorium and listen to Sean Payton every day. The line isn't going to let Drew get crushed, they all want bonus money for play off games and good stats/grades so that their next contract is as large as it can be. I am willing to bet that at least 1 player on that team has said "if Drew isn't behind us, so be it. I didn't need him him to get mine yesterday and I do not need him to get mine tomorrow." If what Drew said impacted players as much as the media says it did, Loomis would have a pile of trade requests on his desk. Fan speculation is ignorant. Amen!

06-08-2020, 08:52 AM	#14
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,753	Re: Season over before it starts Players will be gunning for #9 hard and I believe he'll die on his sword outwitting most of them. The rest can eat a bag of you know what.. It'll be an interesting season to say the least and will be a grest day for humanity when røgerr disappears for good. I was saddened to see the players hit Drew that hard.I lost a hell of alot of respect for a few of them. SmashMouth, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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06-08-2020, 11:20 AM	#16
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by Beastmode During the anthem have new black recruit police on the field. Tribute to them and all who fight for equal justice and freedom. Something we can all stand up and honor. Now you're giving us a solution to the problem. It's not a demonstration with looting and damaging private businesses....many owners of the same color as the rioters doing most of the damage. jeanpierre likes this.

06-08-2020, 12:13 PM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Now you're giving us a solution to the problem. It's not a demonstration with looting and damaging private businesses....many owners of the same color as the rioters doing most of the damage. I have mentioned this before, but, there have been three distinct groups of individuals involved in these protests/demonstrations/riots ... 1) Conscientious peaceful protesters who truly wish for change, 2) organized individuals promoting violence for self-glorification, headline grabbing, or other various reasons, 3) and then those that have no real interest or feelings about "the cause" at all and are only in it for the merchandise or the thrill of destruction. I feel that first group makes up 90% or more of the individuals out on the streets. Maybe seven or eight percent make up that third group. It is the small number in the second group that gives the first group a bad name and enables the third group. leilung, jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.
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06-13-2020, 11:23 AM	#20
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Season over before it starts Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I am still looking forward to the NFL, more so now than in a long time. Trying to make it out as anything more important than entertainment is missing the target. I am just sick of people bowing and scraping to placate the minority and you can have a fair bet on when the season starts, there will be more sucking up before the first game. So no, I haven't missed the target. I know exactly what I want from sports and this isn't it. Danno and jeanpierre like this.