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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Have you ever seen the documentary BROKE ? They actually focused primarily on NBA (fully guaranteed contracts) players losing their earnings so there is definitely credence to your statement as it relates to NFL players. ...

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Old 06-30-2020, 11:33 AM   #1
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Have you ever seen the documentary BROKE? They actually focused primarily on NBA (fully guaranteed contracts) players losing their earnings so there is definitely credence to your statement as it relates to NFL players.

Blew my mind.
I think Dominik even referenced that documentary, not by name, but by content.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:18 AM   #2
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They discussed this very subject on NFL Radio. The discussion came about when Malcolm Jenkins' interview was mentioned where he said he wouldn't want to play unless he felt safe. They said he was among the handful of NFL players that have been able to place themselves in a financial position to be able to forgo game checks. I believe it was the former Tampa Bay GM, Mark Dominik, that said unfortunately almost all the others players live up to those checks. He said the average career of an NFL player is only three years and while they may be getting paid $500K or $1M, the vast majority of them have spent that money up front on things they had never been able to afford before. Considering only half that check survives taxes they will all be in a major bind if they don't play. They said that unwillingness of players to play would not be a reason behind losing games.
Which is shocking to some but that exact characteristic isn't limited to any one collective. Scale is the only variance and even then that has no distinction when you compare players to lottery winners. Winners who did exactly the same thing but ended up worse than before they won because when the last penny was gone, they also had the burden of 'millionaires debt'.

My US Army enlistment bonus was $4,500 in 1989 less taxes of course. I was 19 years old with no less than $3000 in cash in my pocket with room/food/utilities/healthcare paid for, and job security for 4 years minimum. I lived within walking distance to the PXs hi-fidelity display area... Imagine how that ended lol. If only Bose still made 601's...

Its human nature. It's why rich parents set up trust funds and an executor in the event if their death to manage the money they leave their children for as long as they can.

In this very thread someone with a mountain of credit card debt is looking at an NFL player calling him stupid... What is missing from humanity is introspection.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:26 PM   #3
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I see we aren't even trying to hide the bigotry.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:49 AM   #4
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I see we aren't even trying to hide the bigotry.
Is that what you want? To be surrounded by tens of thousands of white millennial's crawling out of their mothers basement to pretend to care out of guilt or their need to be part of a collective because they weren't accepted by the cub they wanted in High School and will forever be bitter and angry about it.

Id rather everyone stop pretending so we can see where we truly are.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:31 PM   #5
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Is that what you want? To be surrounded by tens of thousands of white millennial's crawling out of their mothers basement to pretend to care out of guilt or their need to be part of a collective because they weren't accepted by the cub they wanted in High School and will forever be bitter and angry about it.

Id rather everyone stop pretending so we can see where we truly are.
I'm with you. I think you might have missed where my post was directed. It was directed at the post right before mine.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:49 PM   #6
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I'm with you. I think you might have missed where my post was directed. It was directed at the post right before mine.
Yeah. I thought Oak kinda missed the point there too. And I'm with him, also.
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I can quite possibly see the 2020 NFL season continue ... but without fans . The LaLiga (top professional Spanish soccer league) does it now. Kind of weird seeing that at the top level of European football however there are plans to bring back the fans (possibly at towards the end of the year) at some point with restrictions of course.
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:28 PM   #8
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I can quite possibly see the 2020 NFL season continue ... but without fans . The LaLiga (top professional Spanish soccer league) does it now. Kind of weird seeing that at the top level of European football however there are plans to bring back the fans (possibly at towards the end of the year) at some point with restrictions of course.
Yes. People keep mentioning the loss of $3 billion in revenue if there are no fans in the seats, but they fail to mention the other $8 billion in lost revenue if the season isn't played at all. I just cannot envision owners ignoring $8 billion in revenue or players ignoring their portion, as well.
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Old 07-25-2020, 06:13 AM   #9
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I would like to see games played every 11 days. Sunday, Thursday, Monday, Friday, Tuesday, Saturday, Wednesday, Sunday, Thursday, Monday, Friday, Tuesday, Saturday, Wednesday. 14 game schedule. No byes. Weekend games played at 12 and 3. All other games played at night. The extra 4 days in between games allows for better recovery from injuries and allows teams more time to deal with any covid cases. Teams fly in game day and go straight to the stadiums and fly out immediately afterwards. Lessens exposure. Easier to control.
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Old 07-25-2020, 01:18 PM   #10
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Everything about starting and completing the season seems to be on track.

Players approve plan to open NFL camps on time

The NFL Players Association board of representatives on Friday approved a plan that will have NFL training camp open as scheduled next week.

The league held a meeting with coaches, general managers, presidents and ownership Friday, and it concluded with clubs approving new training camp and roster rules, protocols for operations during the coronavirus pandemic and economics.

The players' board of representatives voted to adopt the proposed changes to the collective bargaining agreement by a count of 29-3, according to a statement from the NFLPA.

"The NFL clubs and the NFL Players Association approved an agreement that broadly resolves all outstanding issues relating to the opening of training camps and start of the 2020 season. Training camps will begin as scheduled," NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement. "We have worked collaboratively to develop a comprehensive set of protocols designed to minimize risk for fans, players, and club and league personnel.

"These plans have been guided by the medical directors of the NFL and the NFLPA and have been reviewed and endorsed by independent medical and public health experts, including the CDC, and many state and local public health officials. The season will undoubtedly present new and additional challenges, but we are committed to playing a safe and complete 2020 season, culminating with the Super Bowl."

Among the agreements by NFL teams approved by the players, sources told ESPN:

The 80-man roster deadline is Aug. 16, before padded practice, but teams can have 90-man rosters if they go with a split-squad setup. Some teams have plans to split squads and use stadium and regular practice facilities.

The salary cap remains the same for 2020 at $198.2 million per team, and there is a cap floor of $175 million in 2021 with the possibility of it being higher, based on revenue streams.

The loss of any potential revenue will be spread out over the next four years, through 2024.

There will be a fund established to pay back any benefits eliminated as a result of COVID-19 up to 2023, as well as paying back any lost guaranteed money to players.

NFL players considered high risk to COVID-19 can earn $350,000 and an accrued NFL season if they choose to opt out of the 2020 season. Players without risk can earn $150,000 for opting out.

Players who make a team's cut get a $300,000 stipend if the season is canceled and no games are played. If a season is canceled before the cut-down date, players who were on a team in 2019 get $250,000.


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