Back to the point, I agree with you. If people are still entertained by this sham of a league, who am I to tell them what to do with their time? I don't care if people watch. I'll say that I don't understand how anyone can find pleasure or enjoyment out of the NFL, anymore, but it is what it is.

For me, though, like you, I see the true colors of the members of this league and the level of disgust I feel makes it impossible for me to feel a sense of connection with the team. To me, that's the whole point of being a fine, is you develop an emotional connection where you identify with that team. I'm not entertained by watching sport for the sake of sport. So I am no longer a fan, and will not watch.

Why should I, or you, or anyone need to justify that to any particular person? And why do we need to be part of a majority in order for our personal convictions to be validated? It's not an election. That some people are offended that others won't watch (but claim they don't care if we watch) shows some kind of wild insecurity in them.

I repeat ... I don't care if you watch or not. Honestly. Nor do I care for the reasons WHY you no longer care to watch. Unless you were one of the the few who claimed that the NFL would lose substantial revenue due to people refusing to watch, for whatever reason, then the point of this thread does not apply to you at all. It has NOTHING to do with your personal convictions. If one's personal convictions led them to toss a thimble of red chalk powder into the air every evening, it does not mean that they will change the color of the blue sky, whether they believe so or not.

'Guido, I've read all of your repeated claims to everyone, including me, that you don't care if we watch. The thing is that some of us know how to read between the lines.

You say you don't care, but you constantly say "this won't affect the league, no matter what you do". I never said I was going to take down the league, all by myself, nor did I say that everyone was going to stop watching all at once. So you don't have to guess what I think. I've told you what I think, and yet you make comments such as "don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out!". You want me to pretend that you aren't bothered by my personal choice, despite comments like that? I'm not an idiot. It's very obvious you have contempt for anyone who dares "turn their back on this team", because, throughout your history on this site, you've elevated your status as a "superfan" to make you better than everyone else.

It leaks into every discussion. If someone doesn't like an acquisition, they're morons for questioning the all-wise front office. If someone doesn't like a play call, they're an idiot for questioning the coaches. If someone criticizes a player, they're an idiot for thinking they know how to do that player's job better than them, as if ANYONE is ever making that argument. You consistently attack people with straw man arguments. And now that some people don't want to watch, you think they're idiots. And don't tell me I am misrepresenting you, because in YOUR OWN words you stated that "What you fail to understand is that most people can intellectually separate entertainment from politics." So you think people like me lack intellectual capability to "separate".

And, as I stated before, there is nothing intellectual about pretending there IS any separation between the NFL and politics, at this point. A lot of the people here who have stated that they will still watch, have even admitted that the political foolishness has ruined a lot of the fun for them. But they aren't ready to let go. I get that. At least they are honest about it.

But you have sided with the players, and their ridiculous hateful reaction toward Drew Brees, and claimed that they "worked it out like men", presumably so you could continue to enjoy this team in full. There is no way for an "intellectually" honest person to look at what happened and not come to the conclusion that Drew was shamed and bullied into changing his position. And for his part, Drew threw away his principles to keep his standing with the team. There was nothing unreasonable about Drew saying he didn't agree with the Anthem method of protest. The players say it wasn't about the anthem or the flag... How stupid does one have to be to take that argument seriously? If it wasn't about the flag and the "oppression" they think it represents, then why did they choose that time to do it? That flag represents our country, which many have fought and died for. If you perceive some kind of injustice, the anthem was a poor time to air that grievance in the opinion of millions of people. So even if the players maintain that it wasn't about the flag, they shouldn't expect THEIR opinions to be respected if they are utterly incapable of respecting anyone else's.

That's why I won't support them.

There is no way for an "intellectually" honest person to look at what happened and not come to the conclusion that Drew was shamed and bullied into changing his position.

An intellectually honest person would be objective and recognize that what Drew says is his business alone, and unless it comes from his mouth it is speculation. Even then, since he is a public figure, there is a high probability that what he says is not transparent and more messaging for a greater good.

An intellectually honest person might point out that flag kneeling, opinion tweeting, telling the world you aren't going to do something because of what someone else is going, are all by definition acts of virtue signaling. While the title of all of those acts might be different they are all at their core the same.

That s if intellectual honesty and objectivity are the basis for all of our discussions.

Now, what about "intellectual honesty"? You seem to take issue with my use of those terms, but you clearly missed that it was in response to AG's comment of "most people can intellectually separate entertainment from politics". Being that we were on the subject of intellectual reasoning, it seems to me that it does, indeed, take an intellectually dishonest person to believe that Drew Brees just suddenly changed his stance on his own.