Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill?

K Major · 02-03-2021, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Holy thirst trap, Batman. And brains with a love football to boot.

Anyway... Since the Saints took a flyer on Jameis I thought that the Saints would find a way to keep him for more than the year in which they signed him. I'm still hopeful that they'll kick the tires on Rosen and draft a QB early in the draft this year.

+1.

I hope the Saints draft a QB in 2021. Something I thought we would do 2 years ago. At the moment, all we have is Taysom and nothing behind him. We'll see what happens on Jameis though.

Sean says a lot.

BTW, I'd pass on Rosen. Why is a former 1st rounder bouncing around the leauge and on his 4th team in 3 seasons? IMO he's a career back up.

RailBoss · 02-03-2021, 11:30 AM

JAMEIS QUICK STATS
TD INT
2015 22 15
2016 28 18
2017 19 11
2018 19 14
2019 33 30
AFTER EYE SURGERY 0

The Dude · 02-03-2021, 04:12 PM

Winston is our best option going into next year. I would like to see him come back on a two year cap friendly contract that’s fair for both parties. He’s got more of an upside than Hill and he’s had a year to get the Tampa stank off him. I also think Hills injury could be a lot worse than advertised. I have it from a personal source that he was done for the season but don’t know how bad it was.

st thomas · 02-03-2021, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Winston is our best option going into next year. I would like to see him come back on a two year cap friendly contract that’s fair for both parties. He’s got more of an upside than Hill and he’s had a year to get the Tampa stank off him. I also think Hills injury could be a lot worse than advertised. I have it from a personal source that he was done for the season but don’t know how bad it was.

Don’t read into this to much but Payton was high on Winston on the radio today. He said Winston is a smart guy and he came to New Orleans not just to be a good QB but a Great QB , he asked Payton if he would be the #2 QB behind Brees and he said no it was Tysom’s job to lose. But he saw enough with Winston that he wants to work on keeping him in Nola

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The Dude · 02-03-2021, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I wouldn't count Brees out so soon. I still cannot imagine him leaving the game before Brady. No way. And I certainly don't expect Brady to quit right now.

If he plays he won’t play here . The players don’t seem to want to play for him anymore. Sean probably knows it’s time to move on if he wants the younger players to buy into a system that makes us competitive long term. I think they’ve had enough of the Drew Brees show.

hitta · 02-04-2021, 01:10 AM

I'm hoping that Winston seeing better will help him. He didn't wear his contact lenses when playing. We may have a diamond that everyone else thinks is an ordinary rock. If he quit throwing INTs he'd be amazing.

TheOak · 02-04-2021, 05:31 AM

Remaining consistent... I have questioned Winstons decision making because of 30 interceptions in a single season, that said Hill had 11 fumbles in a single season. so on ball security it is a wash for me.

Winston hands down is the better pure pocket passer.

Hill seems to make for a more dynamic offense but this isn't college football and when you take into account the loss of ball security, and his missing games every season due to injury, you cant consistently run the offense where you benefit from his upside.

Winston will be our next QB but he either wont last long or will fail miserably due to all the people that will get cut to sign him.

We should probably be discussing who the QB will be in 2022.

vpheughan · 02-04-2021, 08:02 AM

Winston will be our next QB but he either wont last long or will fail miserably

You mean "He'll make it or he won't"
There's a 50% chance of one of those happening!!!!!

AsylumGuido · 02-04-2021, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

If he plays he won’t play here . The players don’t seem to want to play for him anymore. Sean probably knows it’s time to move on if he wants the younger players to buy into a system that makes us competitive long term. I think they’ve had enough of the Drew Brees show.

Not sure where the hell you got that idea. Here's a quote from Demario Davis that just came out today ...

Demario Davis: Saints will come back from latest playoff heartbreak, 'sure hope' Drew Brees does, too

If Davis had his way, Brees would return for one more round.

"I hope so. I sure hope so," he said when asked about whether Brees could come back for another season. "I would feel much better if I could guarantee that he was. But I guess the only way I could be able to guarantee (a comeback) was if one of y'all said something reckless, like, 'he's finished,' or something, then I could guarantee he's coming back. But I sure hope so."

neugey · 02-04-2021, 12:32 PM

If Luck does end up making a comeback, that is a huge spot filled and there'll be plenty of QB's to go around. We probably won't have a problem retaining Winston if this is how it plays out and we indeed want to keep Winston.

02-03-2021, 11:16 AM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by iceshack149 Holy thirst trap, Batman. And brains with a love football to boot. Anyway... Since the Saints took a flyer on Jameis I thought that the Saints would find a way to keep him for more than the year in which they signed him. I'm still hopeful that they'll kick the tires on Rosen and draft a QB early in the draft this year. +1. I hope the Saints draft a QB in 2021. Something I thought we would do 2 years ago. At the moment, all we have is Taysom and nothing behind him. We'll see what happens on Jameis though. Sean says a lot. BTW, I'd pass on Rosen. Why is a former 1st rounder bouncing around the leauge and on his 4th team in 3 seasons? IMO he's a career back up.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by The Dude Winston is our best option going into next year. I would like to see him come back on a two year cap friendly contract that’s fair for both parties. He’s got more of an upside than Hill and he’s had a year to get the Tampa stank off him. I also think Hills injury could be a lot worse than advertised. I have it from a personal source that he was done for the season but don’t know how bad it was. Don’t read into this to much but Payton was high on Winston on the radio today. He said Winston is a smart guy and he came to New Orleans not just to be a good QB but a Great QB , he asked Payton if he would be the #2 QB behind Brees and he said no it was Tysom’s job to lose. But he saw enough with Winston that he wants to work on keeping him in Nola Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I wouldn't count Brees out so soon. I still cannot imagine him leaving the game before Brady. No way. And I certainly don't expect Brady to quit right now. If he plays he won’t play here . The players don’t seem to want to play for him anymore. Sean probably knows it’s time to move on if he wants the younger players to buy into a system that makes us competitive long term. I think they’ve had enough of the Drew Brees show. gosaints1 likes this.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill? Remaining consistent... I have questioned Winstons decision making because of 30 interceptions in a single season, that said Hill had 11 fumbles in a single season. so on ball security it is a wash for me. Winston hands down is the better pure pocket passer. Hill seems to make for a more dynamic offense but this isn't college football and when you take into account the loss of ball security, and his missing games every season due to injury, you cant consistently run the offense where you benefit from his upside. Winston will be our next QB but he either wont last long or will fail miserably due to all the people that will get cut to sign him. We should probably be discussing who the QB will be in 2022.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill? *Winston will be our next QB but he either wont last long or will fail miserably* You mean "He'll make it or he won't" There's a 50% chance of one of those happening!!!!!
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by The Dude If he plays he won’t play here . The players don’t seem to want to play for him anymore. Sean probably knows it’s time to move on if he wants the younger players to buy into a system that makes us competitive long term. I think they’ve had enough of the Drew Brees show. Not sure where the hell you got that idea. Here's a quote from Demario Davis that just came out today ... Demario Davis: Saints will come back from latest playoff heartbreak, 'sure hope' Drew Brees does, too If Davis had his way, Brees would return for one more round. "I hope so. I sure hope so," he said when asked about whether Brees could come back for another season. "I would feel much better if I could guarantee that he was. But I guess the only way I could be able to guarantee (a comeback) was if one of y'all said something reckless, like, 'he's finished,' or something, then I could guarantee he's coming back. But I sure hope so."
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02-04-2021, 12:32 PM	#30
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Is Winston already surpassing Taysom Hill? If Luck does end up making a comeback, that is a huge spot filled and there'll be plenty of QB's to go around. We probably won't have a problem retaining Winston if this is how it plays out and we indeed want to keep Winston.