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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 That is black privilege sir. Below for anyone who wants to help mom bury her daughter. https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-f...=copy_link-tip There’s no such thing as black privilege. A black person can get called the N-Word by any other race ...

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Old 07-09-2020, 09:07 PM   #11
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Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson

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That is black privilege sir. Below for anyone who wants to help mom bury her daughter.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-f...=copy_link-tip
There’s no such thing as black privilege. A black person can get called the N-Word by any other race and it hurts them to the core. A black person can use any disparaging word against any other race and it won’t mean as much because their still looked upon as an N-Word.

Bottom line, are people really comparing Jackson to Brees. Jackson has been a bonehead probably forever. I’d go to war with Brees and trust him with watching my six.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:57 PM   #12
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I kept telling my people to stop sharing that quote because Hitler never said it in the first place. I looked for it years ago. It’s been circulating for a long time. I do understand how one can interpret the scripture and then begin to assume that those who claim to be the children of Israel may not actually be, but attempt to prove that point with actual scholarship and the doctrine itself.

People do a horrible job of going to primary sources and researching in general. My search to learn about the origins of the Hebrew people 10 years ago is the reason I stopped practicing the Abrahamic faiths. Anti-Semitic? Nah. They just think they’re Semitic. I’ve been trying to tell them they’re not...just had a debate about it on a podcast the other day.
Ashkenazi Jews... there’s certainly some truth to the perversion of Abrahamic faith.
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:10 PM   #13
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Ashkenazi Jews... there’s certainly some truth to the perversion of Abrahamic faith.
Mmhm.
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Old 07-10-2020, 04:24 AM   #14
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That and Drew Brees is a coward, as us his wife. All he had to say was that is my belief for me, not forcing it on anyone else. Give it a week or two, shut up and don't respond to anyone or anything and it would die.

But because he was petrified to lose his announcer gig after football he tucked himself like a man with breasts...what do they call those?
You can call Brees a coward, and there may have some truth to it. The thing about Brees though is I think he's more worried about the team's continuity than anything else. He saw the team fracturing and did whatever was needed to be done to keep it from tearing apart. I think if it was just Brees alone being criticized and he didn't have to worry about keeping the team together, he may have taken a different route. That still doesn't absolve him from backing down from his principles, but it gives a certain complexity to his situation. Judging Brees based on one's own individual perspective is a bit unfair. Brees has a lot of weight on his shoulders, perhaps 10 times more than the typical person that would be in that kind of scenario. Until you've walked in the man's shoes, giving blanket statements about what he did was right or wrong to me is unjust. I'm not saying I agree with what he did, I'm just saying that every situation is different. Brees has always has a team first/city first(cause he considers the city part of the team) perspective, and I think he's the type of person that would fall on the sword for the betterment of the team.
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Old 07-10-2020, 11:02 AM   #15
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I don't think Brees backed down from his principles. Brees got caught in a firestorm that conflated to completely different items that folks on both sides are deliberately trying to link together: (A) Standing/Kneeling for the National Anthem and (B) supporting Black Lives.

It just so happens that Kaepernik and others have decided to link the two together. Brees was asked about one (A), answered about one (A), and was criticized for not supporting (B). But as he finally figured out, (A) and (B) really have nothing to do with one another. It's possible to stand for the flag and support Black Lives without compromising your integrity. I believe that's the path he is choosing to follow.

I believe he would compromise his principles if he kneeled during the anthem. I have absolutely no expectation of him doing that. In fact I'd be disappointed if he did. By the same token he, or we, can agree or disagree if others should do it. But Brees can support the cause of the call to action without performing the action itself.

Of course I think much of it is empty gestures when not backed with policy proscriptions to change the situation. But that's a story for another day, I guess in another forum.

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Old 07-10-2020, 02:16 PM   #16
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And now Malcolm Jenkins the Hypocrite rises once more.

"Comments were made and they were wrong, but this is all a distraction, Jewish people aren't our problem."

Yet he basically tried to turn the whole world against Brees when it was an issue he felt strongly about.
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I really like Drew and believe that is an a great person but I wish that he had stood his ground stating "hey this is my beliefs."
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I don't think Brees backed down from his principles. Brees got caught in a firestorm that conflated to completely different items that folks on both sides are deliberately trying to link together: (A) Standing/Kneeling for the National Anthem and (B) supporting Black Lives.

It just so happens that Kaepernik and others have decided to link the two together. Brees was asked about one (A), answered about one (A), and was criticized for not supporting (B). But as he finally figured out, (A) and (B) really have nothing to do with one another. It's possible to stand for the flag and support Black Lives without compromising your integrity. I believe that's the path he is choosing to follow.

I believe he would compromise his principles if he kneeled during the anthem. I have absolutely no expectation of him doing that. In fact I'd be disappointed if he did. By the same token he, or we, can agree or disagree if others should do it. But Brees can support the cause of the call to action without performing the action itself.

Of course I think much of it is empty gestures when not backed with policy proscriptions to change the situation. But that's a story for another day, I guess in another forum.

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Old 07-10-2020, 03:45 PM   #19
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Most of what gets attention in our current culture is from those who are angry, loud and propagate hate. While I do absolutely believe those individuals are largely in the minority, they are strong in their numbers. We all say things others disagree with. We all disagree with what others say. Beyond that, it's a personal choice. If it means something to you, join the conversation. Make the effort to make that conversation open minded and honest. And if you can only agree to disagree, do so respectfully. I try not to sweat the small stuff. Things that don't effect my daily life. Things that don't matter to me and are none of my business. Mostly I succeed. Sometimes I fail. We are all in this together. It's amazing what working together can accomplish.
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Old 07-10-2020, 03:51 PM   #20
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There’s no such thing as black privilege. A black person can get called the N-Word by any other race and it hurts them to the core. A black person can use any disparaging word against any other race and it won’t mean as much because their still looked upon as an N-Word.

Bottom line, are people really comparing Jackson to Brees. Jackson has been a bonehead probably forever. I’d go to war with Brees and trust him with watching my six.
All I heard was blah blah im making excuses and I'm FOS. Bye hypocrite
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