Drew Brees-Desean Jackson

spkb25 · 07-10-2020, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

You can call Brees and a coward, and there may have some truth to it. The thing about Brees though is I think he's more worried about the team's continuity than anything else. He saw the team fracturing and did whatever was needed to be done to keep it from tearing apart. I think if it was just Brees alone being criticized and he didn't have to worry about keeping the team together, he may have taken a different route. That still doesn't absolve him from backing down from his principles, but it gives a certain complexity to his situation. Judging Brees based on one's own individual perspective is a bit unfair. Brees has a lot of weight on his shoulders, perhaps 10 times more than the typical person that would be in that kind of scenario. Until you've walked in the man's shoes, giving blanket statements about what he did was right or wrong to me is unjust. I'm not saying I agree with what he did, I'm just saying that every situation is different. Brees has always has a team first/city first(cause he considers the city part of the team) perspective, and I think he's the type of person that would fall on the sword for the betterment of the team.

he's more worried about his next job

blackangold · 07-10-2020, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

he's more worried about his next job

He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly.

I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone.

For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided.

spkb25 · 07-12-2020, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly.

I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone.

For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided.

There needs to be action by individual black people. All of the issues in those communities are self inflicted due to poor choices.

Drew Brees is a coward.

The Dude · 07-09-2020, 02:27 PM

I’m just glad we heard about it and it didn’t get swept under the rug. Social injustice is everywhere and although the focus is on black Americans ( as it should be) people need to be reminded that it’s not limited to black Americans. If you are using your celebrity status as a platform to speak out you are subject to the same rules as everyone else.
I really wish all Americans could visit some of the countries I have been to and come back and talk about who’s privileged and who’s not. We are extremely lucky. All of us.

WillMacKenzie · 07-09-2020, 03:09 PM

How far back do we go? Oppression isn’t/wasn’t strictly a black phenomenon. Nearly everyone’s ancestry is touched by it at some point.

What secret textbook dictates the right amount of years that has to elapse before we get on with it? Cause nobody’s talking about my oppression or your oppression or their oppression over there.

What’s the benefit of holding onto bitterness like an anchor that will sink you to the bottom until you drown? It’s an excuse. Take responsibility for your life and work your ass off. You’ll be rejected, not everything will work out, not everyone will love you — that’s human. Be better than that.

dizzle88 · 07-09-2020, 04:20 PM

The world is a scary place nowadays, all this so called "freedom of speech" we are meant to have. People used to be able to have an opinion, now any opinion that doesn't match another opinion, and you're automatically called a Racist, Ignorant etc

Comedy shows that were made years ago are now apologising and removing episodes, when the greatest thing about Comedy shows is they show our own hypocrisy and flaws in human history and how we are now able to poke fun at eachother, we aren't allowed to do that apparently anymore. They are scared to death of offending any group of people, nothing will be acceptable soon.

If we can't look at our past and see it as a growing point, then we'll just forever be in a circle of people not being able to have a joke with each other.

Certain stuff was extremely messed up in the past, the majority of the world acknowledges that and is able to see right from wrong. So why are we suffering for the behaviour of a group of idiotic individuals? Especially when we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of years ago.

St. Sherman · 07-09-2020, 04:58 PM

So people and corporations can virtue signal, increase their wealth and power and shame others into silence. What did you think any of this was about, change? Its about power.

ChrisXVI · 07-09-2020, 06:34 PM

How quickly the oppressed can become the oppressors.

rezburna · 07-09-2020, 07:32 PM

I kept telling my people to stop sharing that quote because Hitler never said it in the first place. I looked for it years ago. It’s been circulating for a long time. I do understand how one can interpret the scripture and then begin to assume that those who claim to be the children of Israel may not actually be, but attempt to prove that point with actual scholarship and the doctrine itself.

People do a horrible job of going to primary sources and researching in general. My search to learn about the origins of the Hebrew people 10 years ago is the reason I stopped practicing the Abrahamic faiths. Anti-Semitic? Nah. They just think they’re Semitic. I’ve been trying to tell them they’re not...just had a debate about it on a podcast the other day.

ChrisXVI · 07-09-2020, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I kept telling my people to stop sharing that quote because Hitler never said it in the first place. I looked for it years ago. It’s been circulating for a long time. I do understand how one can interpret the scripture and then begin to assume that those who claim to be the children of Israel may not actually be, but attempt to prove that point with actual scholarship and the doctrine itself.

People do a horrible job of going to primary sources and researching in general. My search to learn about the origins of the Hebrew people 10 years ago is the reason I stopped practicing the Abrahamic faiths. Anti-Semitic? Nah. They just think they’re Semitic. I’ve been trying to tell them they’re not...just had a debate about it on a podcast the other day.

Ashkenazi Jews... there’s certainly some truth to the perversion of Abrahamic faith.

07-10-2020, 02:52 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by hitta You can call Brees and a coward, and there may have some truth to it. The thing about Brees though is I think he's more worried about the team's continuity than anything else. He saw the team fracturing and did whatever was needed to be done to keep it from tearing apart. I think if it was just Brees alone being criticized and he didn't have to worry about keeping the team together, he may have taken a different route. That still doesn't absolve him from backing down from his principles, but it gives a certain complexity to his situation. Judging Brees based on one's own individual perspective is a bit unfair. Brees has a lot of weight on his shoulders, perhaps 10 times more than the typical person that would be in that kind of scenario. Until you've walked in the man's shoes, giving blanket statements about what he did was right or wrong to me is unjust. I'm not saying I agree with what he did, I'm just saying that every situation is different. Brees has always has a team first/city first(cause he considers the city part of the team) perspective, and I think he's the type of person that would fall on the sword for the betterment of the team. he's more worried about his next job

07-10-2020, 03:15 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by spkb25 he's more worried about his next job He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly. I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone. For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.
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07-12-2020, 04:36 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by blackangold He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly. I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone. For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided. There needs to be action by individual black people. All of the issues in those communities are self inflicted due to poor choices. Drew Brees is a coward.

07-09-2020, 02:27 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson I’m just glad we heard about it and it didn’t get swept under the rug. Social injustice is everywhere and although the focus is on black Americans ( as it should be) people need to be reminded that it’s not limited to black Americans. If you are using your celebrity status as a platform to speak out you are subject to the same rules as everyone else. I really wish all Americans could visit some of the countries I have been to and come back and talk about who’s privileged and who’s not. We are extremely lucky. All of us.
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07-09-2020, 03:09 PM	#5
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson How far back do we go? Oppression isn’t/wasn’t strictly a black phenomenon. Nearly everyone’s ancestry is touched by it at some point. What secret textbook dictates the right amount of years that has to elapse before we get on with it? Cause nobody’s talking about my oppression or your oppression or their oppression over there. What’s the benefit of holding onto bitterness like an anchor that will sink you to the bottom until you drown? It’s an excuse. Take responsibility for your life and work your ass off. You’ll be rejected, not everything will work out, not everyone will love you — that’s human. Be better than that. SaintGup, dizzle88 and frydaddy like this.

07-09-2020, 04:20 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,542	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson The world is a scary place nowadays, all this so called "freedom of speech" we are meant to have. People used to be able to have an opinion, now any opinion that doesn't match another opinion, and you're automatically called a Racist, Ignorant etc Comedy shows that were made years ago are now apologising and removing episodes, when the greatest thing about Comedy shows is they show our own hypocrisy and flaws in human history and how we are now able to poke fun at eachother, we aren't allowed to do that apparently anymore. They are scared to death of offending any group of people, nothing will be acceptable soon. If we can't look at our past and see it as a growing point, then we'll just forever be in a circle of people not being able to have a joke with each other. Certain stuff was extremely messed up in the past, the majority of the world acknowledges that and is able to see right from wrong. So why are we suffering for the behaviour of a group of idiotic individuals? Especially when we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Rugby Saint II, 73Saint and frydaddy like this.
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07-09-2020, 04:58 PM	#7
St. Sherman Rookie Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 19	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson So people and corporations can virtue signal, increase their wealth and power and shame others into silence. What did you think any of this was about, change? Its about power.
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07-09-2020, 06:34 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson How quickly the oppressed can become the oppressors.

07-09-2020, 07:32 PM	#9
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson I kept telling my people to stop sharing that quote because Hitler never said it in the first place. I looked for it years ago. It’s been circulating for a long time. I do understand how one can interpret the scripture and then begin to assume that those who claim to be the children of Israel may not actually be, but attempt to prove that point with actual scholarship and the doctrine itself. People do a horrible job of going to primary sources and researching in general. My search to learn about the origins of the Hebrew people 10 years ago is the reason I stopped practicing the Abrahamic faiths. Anti-Semitic? Nah. They just think they’re Semitic. I’ve been trying to tell them they’re not...just had a debate about it on a podcast the other day. Cruize, AsylumGuido and ChrisXVI like this.
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07-09-2020, 08:57 PM	#10
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by rezburna I kept telling my people to stop sharing that quote because Hitler never said it in the first place. I looked for it years ago. It’s been circulating for a long time. I do understand how one can interpret the scripture and then begin to assume that those who claim to be the children of Israel may not actually be, but attempt to prove that point with actual scholarship and the doctrine itself. People do a horrible job of going to primary sources and researching in general. My search to learn about the origins of the Hebrew people 10 years ago is the reason I stopped practicing the Abrahamic faiths. Anti-Semitic? Nah. They just think they’re Semitic. I’ve been trying to tell them they’re not...just had a debate about it on a podcast the other day. Ashkenazi Jews... there’s certainly some truth to the perversion of Abrahamic faith. rezburna and shawnkytonk like this.