Drew Brees-Desean Jackson

spkb25 · 07-10-2020, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

You can call Brees and a coward, and there may have some truth to it. The thing about Brees though is I think he's more worried about the team's continuity than anything else. He saw the team fracturing and did whatever was needed to be done to keep it from tearing apart. I think if it was just Brees alone being criticized and he didn't have to worry about keeping the team together, he may have taken a different route. That still doesn't absolve him from backing down from his principles, but it gives a certain complexity to his situation. Judging Brees based on one's own individual perspective is a bit unfair. Brees has a lot of weight on his shoulders, perhaps 10 times more than the typical person that would be in that kind of scenario. Until you've walked in the man's shoes, giving blanket statements about what he did was right or wrong to me is unjust. I'm not saying I agree with what he did, I'm just saying that every situation is different. Brees has always has a team first/city first(cause he considers the city part of the team) perspective, and I think he's the type of person that would fall on the sword for the betterment of the team.

he's more worried about his next job

blackangold · 07-10-2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

he's more worried about his next job

He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly.

I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone.

For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided.

spkb25 · 07-12-2020, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly.

I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone.

For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided.

There needs to be action by individual black people. All of the issues in those communities are self inflicted due to poor choices.

Drew Brees is a coward.

shawnkytonk · 07-12-2020, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

All I heard was blah blah im making excuses and I'm FOS. Bye hypocrite

You mad bro?

Rell&Gold · 07-13-2020, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

There needs to be action by individual black people. All of the issues in those communities are self inflicted due to poor choices.

Drew Brees is a coward.

You speak in bold statements, for someone who says the ignorant things they say. "All of the issue's are self inflicted " YOU are apart of the problem in this country CLEARLY.

Be a GREAT man , and be apart of the solution/creation of something bigger than yourself. You could learn alot from Drew Brees.

Rell&Gold · 07-13-2020, 02:52 AM

Drew Brees realized his view isn't the only view that matters in this particular situation and that what was at stake Respect, Relationships, Trust. I'm a blackman and didn't and still don't feel any type because of Drew Brees stance on kneeling during the Anthem or what have you. Actually think I understood what he was saying, but 1. That wasnt the time or place. 2. Drew already kneeled. 3. Military personnel suggested the kneeling.

Going to Someone's funeral telling everyone that he owed you 500$ is irrelevant. Celebrate his life or dont come. Support or shut up.

nola_swammi · 07-13-2020, 05:07 AM

Some of y’all really do forget. Not to dilute what Jackson said or to say it wasn’t as outrageous as Brees. Brees knew what the protest was about to the point he actually kneeled in solidarity with his teammates. At some point he felt it was necessary to show his support for the military men & women by personally attending troops functions. What pissed off teammates and other players is at the point of the movement, when it is crystal clear to the nations that BLM is about police brutality and killing of black Americans, once again he TRIED to change the NARRATIVE to DISRESPECTING THE FLAG. Kneeling at the flag with hand on heart is not disrespectful. I can go back and post pictures where it was look upon as favorable. It’s that it was a protest that is meaningful to black people that some white people detest.

Just wanted you to see the picture

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...ments.amp.html

OldMaid · 07-13-2020, 09:11 AM

Drees Brees not a coward on or off the field.

Danno · 07-13-2020, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

Drees Brees not a coward on or off the field.

His actions say otherwise.

gumbeau · 07-13-2020, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Some of y’all really do forget. Not to dilute what Jackson said or to say it wasn’t as outrageous as Brees. Brees knew what the protest was about to the point he actually kneeled in solidarity with his teammates. At some point he felt it was necessary to show his support for the military men & women by personally attending troops functions. What pissed off teammates and other players is at the point of the movement, when it is crystal clear to the nations that BLM is about police brutality and killing of black Americans, once again he TRIED to change the NARRATIVE to DISRESPECTING THE FLAG. Kneeling at the flag with hand on heart is not disrespectful. I can go back and post pictures where it was look upon as favorable. It’s that it was a protest that is meaningful to black people that some white people detest.

Just wanted you to see the picture

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...ments.amp.html

BLM is a racist, Marxist totalitarian revolutionary movement using people to further their quest for power and money.

You and Drew Brees are just pawns in their game.

07-10-2020, 03:52 PM	#21
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by hitta You can call Brees and a coward, and there may have some truth to it. The thing about Brees though is I think he's more worried about the team's continuity than anything else. He saw the team fracturing and did whatever was needed to be done to keep it from tearing apart. I think if it was just Brees alone being criticized and he didn't have to worry about keeping the team together, he may have taken a different route. That still doesn't absolve him from backing down from his principles, but it gives a certain complexity to his situation. Judging Brees based on one's own individual perspective is a bit unfair. Brees has a lot of weight on his shoulders, perhaps 10 times more than the typical person that would be in that kind of scenario. Until you've walked in the man's shoes, giving blanket statements about what he did was right or wrong to me is unjust. I'm not saying I agree with what he did, I'm just saying that every situation is different. Brees has always has a team first/city first(cause he considers the city part of the team) perspective, and I think he's the type of person that would fall on the sword for the betterment of the team. he's more worried about his next job

07-10-2020, 04:15 PM	#22
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by spkb25 he's more worried about his next job He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly. I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone. For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.
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07-12-2020, 05:36 PM	#23
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by blackangold He doesn't need to be worried about anything. Very disappointing to see people in positions to have a impact cower to SJW mantras. I am not specifically looking at the Brees situation here... but taking his into account, it's not about retaliation or the loss of something. Drew has **** you money and every record in the book, I don't get why he seemed so cowardly. I don't think he truly understood why taking a Knee didn't mean what he thought... not many of us did until recently. I have no issue with players taking a knee. To be honest it's silly and not useful for anyone. For real safety, security and opportunity in the black community to occur there needs to be action by policy makers. Unfortunately (((they))) aim to maintain power and control, and to do that (((they))) are keeping people divided. There needs to be action by individual black people. All of the issues in those communities are self inflicted due to poor choices. Drew Brees is a coward.

07-12-2020, 10:17 PM	#24
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by spkb25 All I heard was blah blah im making excuses and I'm FOS. Bye hypocrite You mad bro?

07-13-2020, 02:42 AM	#25
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by spkb25 There needs to be action by individual black people. All of the issues in those communities are self inflicted due to poor choices. Drew Brees is a coward. You speak in bold statements, for someone who says the ignorant things they say. "All of the issue's are self inflicted " YOU are apart of the problem in this country CLEARLY. Be a GREAT man , and be apart of the solution/creation of something bigger than yourself. You could learn alot from Drew Brees. K Major likes this.

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07-13-2020, 02:52 AM	#26
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Drew Brees realized his view isn't the only view that matters in this particular situation and that what was at stake Respect, Relationships, Trust. I'm a blackman and didn't and still don't feel any type because of Drew Brees stance on kneeling during the Anthem or what have you. Actually think I understood what he was saying, but 1. That wasnt the time or place. 2. Drew already kneeled. 3. Military personnel suggested the kneeling. Going to Someone's funeral telling everyone that he owed you 500$ is irrelevant. Celebrate his life or dont come. Support or shut up.

07-13-2020, 05:07 AM	#27
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Some of y’all really do forget. Not to dilute what Jackson said or to say it wasn’t as outrageous as Brees. Brees knew what the protest was about to the point he actually kneeled in solidarity with his teammates. At some point he felt it was necessary to show his support for the military men & women by personally attending troops functions. What pissed off teammates and other players is at the point of the movement, when it is crystal clear to the nations that BLM is about police brutality and killing of black Americans, once again he TRIED to change the NARRATIVE to DISRESPECTING THE FLAG. Kneeling at the flag with hand on heart is not disrespectful. I can go back and post pictures where it was look upon as favorable. It’s that it was a protest that is meaningful to black people that some white people detest. Just wanted you to see the picture https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...ments.amp.html

07-13-2020, 09:11 AM	#28
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Drees Brees not a coward on or off the field. AsylumGuido likes this.

07-13-2020, 10:02 AM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by OldMaid Drees Brees not a coward on or off the field. His actions say otherwise.

07-13-2020, 10:24 AM	#30
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi Some of y’all really do forget. Not to dilute what Jackson said or to say it wasn’t as outrageous as Brees. Brees knew what the protest was about to the point he actually kneeled in solidarity with his teammates. At some point he felt it was necessary to show his support for the military men & women by personally attending troops functions. What pissed off teammates and other players is at the point of the movement, when it is crystal clear to the nations that BLM is about police brutality and killing of black Americans, once again he TRIED to change the NARRATIVE to DISRESPECTING THE FLAG. Kneeling at the flag with hand on heart is not disrespectful. I can go back and post pictures where it was look upon as favorable. It’s that it was a protest that is meaningful to black people that some white people detest. Just wanted you to see the picture https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...ments.amp.html BLM is a racist, Marxist totalitarian revolutionary movement using people to further their quest for power and money. You and Drew Brees are just pawns in their game. Danno and SaintGup like this.