Drew Brees-Desean Jackson

Danno · 07-13-2020, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

nola_swammi · 07-14-2020, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Where is the link

rezburna · 07-14-2020, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

AsylumGuido · 07-14-2020, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

Shreveport is one of the eleven cities selected to test UBI (Universal basic income), along with Los Angeles and Atlanta.

"The mayors of Los Angeles; Oakland, California; Atlanta, Georgia; Tacoma, Washington, Newark, New Jersey; Saint Paul, Minnesota; Jackson, Mississippi; Compton, California; Shreveport, Louisiana and Stockton, California, have joined Mayors For A Guaranteed Income, a coalition advocating for UBI policies, or the idea of giving out recurring cash payments to all individuals without any strings attached."

This is proposed for all Americans, as well. Automation is eliminating jobs at record levels and this is a proposed solution for lowering poverty.

spkb25 · 07-14-2020, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

You mad bro?

Of course not, just factual as always

spkb25 · 07-14-2020, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

You speak in bold statements, for someone who says the ignorant things they say. "All of the issue's are self inflicted " YOU are apart of the problem in this country CLEARLY.

Be a GREAT man , and be apart of the solution/creation of something bigger than yourself. You could learn alot from Drew Brees.

All of the issues are self inflicted. Black Americans cause their own problems. What id like to see you do is help some of the parents bury their kids. Other than that just be quiet.

spkb25 · 07-14-2020, 04:45 PM

Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime.

The Dude · 07-14-2020, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

rezburna · 07-14-2020, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward.

BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on.

There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry.

It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions.

AsylumGuido · 07-14-2020, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime.

Those nasty assed American blacks. The scourge of the earth, right? Good thing you aren't prejudiced. You see things the way the really are.

07-13-2020, 11:37 PM	#41
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. According to their website 1) Defund the police 2) Reparations for slavery 3) Guaranteed income for minorities 4) Free college and open admissions 5) Political prisoners in jails to be released 6) Voting age lowered to 16

07-14-2020, 01:52 AM	#42
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by Danno According to their website 1) Defund the police 2) Reparations for slavery 3) Guaranteed income for minorities 4) Free college and open admissions 5) Political prisoners in jails to be released 6) Voting age lowered to 16 Where is the link

07-14-2020, 08:37 AM	#43
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by Danno According to their website 1) Defund the police 2) Reparations for slavery 3) Guaranteed income for minorities 4) Free college and open admissions 5) Political prisoners in jails to be released 6) Voting age lowered to 16 Sounds like reform and policies to me. 1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going. 2. Money and land for descendants of slavery. 3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang. 4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans. 5. Political prisoners should definitely be released. 6. Another policy change for ALL Americans. I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it. AsylumGuido likes this.
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07-14-2020, 10:08 AM	#44
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by rezburna Sounds like reform and policies to me. 1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going. 2. Money and land for descendants of slavery. 3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang. 4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans. 5. Political prisoners should definitely be released. 6. Another policy change for ALL Americans. I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it. Shreveport is one of the eleven cities selected to test UBI (Universal basic income), along with Los Angeles and Atlanta. "The mayors of Los Angeles; Oakland, California; Atlanta, Georgia; Tacoma, Washington, Newark, New Jersey; Saint Paul, Minnesota; Jackson, Mississippi; Compton, California; Shreveport, Louisiana and Stockton, California, have joined Mayors For A Guaranteed Income, a coalition advocating for UBI policies, or the idea of giving out recurring cash payments to all individuals without any strings attached." This is proposed for all Americans, as well. Automation is eliminating jobs at record levels and this is a proposed solution for lowering poverty. rezburna likes this.

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07-14-2020, 04:39 PM	#46
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by Rell&Gold You speak in bold statements, for someone who says the ignorant things they say. "All of the issue's are self inflicted " YOU are apart of the problem in this country CLEARLY. Be a GREAT man , and be apart of the solution/creation of something bigger than yourself. You could learn alot from Drew Brees. All of the issues are self inflicted. Black Americans cause their own problems. What id like to see you do is help some of the parents bury their kids. Other than that just be quiet.

07-14-2020, 04:45 PM	#47
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime. Danno likes this.
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07-14-2020, 05:10 PM	#48
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. Danno likes this.
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07-14-2020, 05:50 PM	#49
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by The Dude BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward. BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on. There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry. It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions. The Dude likes this.
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07-14-2020, 05:52 PM	#50
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by spkb25 Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime. Those nasty assed American blacks. The scourge of the earth, right? Good thing you aren't prejudiced. You see things the way the really are. K Major and rezburna like this.