Drew Brees-Desean Jackson

The Dude · 07-14-2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

rezburna · 07-14-2020, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward.

BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on.

There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry.

It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions.

spkb25 · 07-14-2020, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too.

AsylumGuido · 07-14-2020, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too.

Simply amazing!

spkb25 · 07-14-2020, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Simply amazing!

ty. BTW did you donate to the go fund me I posted?

Who the F are we kidding, we know you didn't.

nola_swammi · 07-14-2020, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

What proof do you have it been hijacked by ANTIFA? A lot of allegations of this or that but not one ounce of proof. Anything and everything is used by REPUBLICANS and WHITE SUPREMACY to either alter the message or change the narrative. This brutality been going on every since slavery but reached optical rapport after being verified when they (policemen) were videotaped beating Rodney King to all officers being acquitted. What I am getting from this is excuses for turning a blind eye. 1. Disrespecting America 2. All lives matter 3. Black killing blacks. 4.whites are more victim than blacks to being killed by police. Now it’s ANTIFA. GIVE ME A BREAK.

As for Republicans, why are they so all in for defunding schools at every turn but defunding the police is so wrong. Do police really need drones and other high tech military arsenals over educating our youth. Do police need to be called for non lethal mental health situation over a social worker.

spkb25 · 07-14-2020, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

What proof do you have it been hijacked by ANTIFA? A lot of allegations of this or that but not one ounce of proof. Anything and everything is used by REPUBLICANS and WHITE SUPREMACY to either alter the message or change the narrative. This brutality been going on every since slavery but reached optical rapport after being verified when they (policemen) were videotaped beating Rodney King to all officers being acquitted. What I am getting from this is excuses for turning a blind eye. 1. Disrespecting America 2. All lives matter 3. Black killing blacks. 4.whites are more victim than blacks to being killed by police. Now it’s ANTIFA. GIVE ME A BREAK.

As for Republicans, why are they so all in for defunding schools at every turn but defunding the police is so wrong. Do police really need drones and other high tech military arsenals over educating our youth. Do police need to be called for non lethal mental health situation over a social worker.

I see you're still responding, further demonstrating how much of a liar you are. You were committed to an idea and then couldn't live up to it. Man if that's not typical.

Black American men have no problem with killing each other. They need 0 help, this is one they have fully figured out. Theyre experts. So it offends me when you don't give Black American men credit for their expertise.

I'll tell you this, and no doubt it is something you will fully understand. My wife is not a black American, but had she been i would have finally understood the need that burns inside black American men to abandon their babies.

Now, why don't you for once live up to your commitments and stop talking with the racist

iceshack149 · 07-15-2020, 01:10 PM

To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities.

To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant.

dizzle88 · 07-15-2020, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities.

To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant.

Couldn't say it better myself. Every race, every workplace, every group of people, every country, they all have a minority of idiotic people and unfortunately some people see that and automatically think that is true for the entire group.

Uncertain times we are living in, but you can't argue with idiots, you'll never win.

AsylumGuido · 07-15-2020, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities.

To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant.

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Couldn't say it better myself. Every race, every workplace, every group of people, every country, they all have a minority of idiotic people and unfortunately some people see that and automatically think that is true for the entire group.

Uncertain times we are living in, but you can't argue with idiots, you'll never win.

I agree completely with all of this.

07-14-2020, 04:10 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. Danno likes this.
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07-14-2020, 04:50 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by The Dude BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward. BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on. There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry. It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions. The Dude likes this.
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07-14-2020, 04:55 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by The Dude BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too.

07-14-2020, 05:27 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by spkb25 Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too. Simply amazing!

07-14-2020, 07:51 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Simply amazing! ty. BTW did you donate to the go fund me I posted? Who the F are we kidding, we know you didn't.

07-14-2020, 10:20 PM	#6
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by The Dude BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. What proof do you have it been hijacked by ANTIFA? A lot of allegations of this or that but not one ounce of proof. Anything and everything is used by REPUBLICANS and WHITE SUPREMACY to either alter the message or change the narrative. This brutality been going on every since slavery but reached optical rapport after being verified when they (policemen) were videotaped beating Rodney King to all officers being acquitted. What I am getting from this is excuses for turning a blind eye. 1. Disrespecting America 2. All lives matter 3. Black killing blacks. 4.whites are more victim than blacks to being killed by police. Now it’s ANTIFA. GIVE ME A BREAK. As for Republicans, why are they so all in for defunding schools at every turn but defunding the police is so wrong. Do police really need drones and other high tech military arsenals over educating our youth. Do police need to be called for non lethal mental health situation over a social worker. rezburna likes this.

07-14-2020, 11:39 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi What proof do you have it been hijacked by ANTIFA? A lot of allegations of this or that but not one ounce of proof. Anything and everything is used by REPUBLICANS and WHITE SUPREMACY to either alter the message or change the narrative. This brutality been going on every since slavery but reached optical rapport after being verified when they (policemen) were videotaped beating Rodney King to all officers being acquitted. What I am getting from this is excuses for turning a blind eye. 1. Disrespecting America 2. All lives matter 3. Black killing blacks. 4.whites are more victim than blacks to being killed by police. Now it’s ANTIFA. GIVE ME A BREAK. As for Republicans, why are they so all in for defunding schools at every turn but defunding the police is so wrong. Do police really need drones and other high tech military arsenals over educating our youth. Do police need to be called for non lethal mental health situation over a social worker. I see you're still responding, further demonstrating how much of a liar you are. You were committed to an idea and then couldn't live up to it. Man if that's not typical. Black American men have no problem with killing each other. They need 0 help, this is one they have fully figured out. Theyre experts. So it offends me when you don't give Black American men credit for their expertise. I'll tell you this, and no doubt it is something you will fully understand. My wife is not a black American, but had she been i would have finally understood the need that burns inside black American men to abandon their babies. Now, why don't you for once live up to your commitments and stop talking with the racist Danno likes this.
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07-15-2020, 01:10 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,339 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities. To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant. AsylumGuido, dizzle88 and OldMaid like this.
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07-15-2020, 01:20 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by iceshack149 To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities. To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant. Couldn't say it better myself. Every race, every workplace, every group of people, every country, they all have a minority of idiotic people and unfortunately some people see that and automatically think that is true for the entire group. Uncertain times we are living in, but you can't argue with idiots, you'll never win. iceshack149, Danno, AsylumGuido and 1 others like this.

07-15-2020, 01:46 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by iceshack149 To the moderators, I appreciate you letting us hash things out without fear of being suspended or worse, being banned. This discussion is the most complicated topic to tackle since we've all had positive and negative experiences with members of other races regardless of our locations on this planet. It's mostly healthy to speak about this and hopefully gain perspective so that we all can attempt to empathize with our fellow Americans and people of all nationalities. To my friends and fellow members, please try to at the very least sympathize with other people's walks in life. To be prejudiced against a person because of the color of their skin or other differences they have from you is just silly. Black, white or otherwise. I've learned that there are great people from every race and there are terrible people from every race. To assume what a person is like based on their appearance is ignorant. Originally Posted by dizzle88 Couldn't say it better myself. Every race, every workplace, every group of people, every country, they all have a minority of idiotic people and unfortunately some people see that and automatically think that is true for the entire group. Uncertain times we are living in, but you can't argue with idiots, you'll never win. I agree completely with all of this. dizzle88 likes this.