Drew Brees-Desean Jackson

nola_swammi · 07-13-2020, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

BLM is a racist, Marxist totalitarian revolutionary movement using people to further their quest for power and money.

You and Drew Brees are just pawns in their game.

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

frydaddy · 07-13-2020, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

Well one of the BLM founders said openly in an interview that they are trained marxists, so theres your proof. As for your apples to oranges cancer comparison, there are statistical and scientific FACTS in abundance behind cancer. The "facts" and statistics that BLM throws out are cherry picked and demonstrably false when you take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

If black folks really want change and equality they should stop voting democrat. That party has kept them under foot since before the civil war. They incentivize broken families and dependence on the government by dangling welfare, food stamps and section 8 in front of them and making it extremely difficult to qualify for any of them if you're married. The housing they provide is always ****ty and the benefits are barely enough to survive on, and if you go get yourself a job they'll slash or eliminate your benefits, so unless you find a job that pays really well, you're in no better shape..possibly worse. They promise black folks the world every election cycle and never deliver. Obama had a democrat majority in the house and Senate, he did nothing for blacks. The only thing that changed was that the black unemployment rate doubled under his "leadership." This is what frustrates me most about the BLM stuff, of all the fingers being pointed, none are being pointed at the actual source of the problem. There is actual, provable systemic racism at the root of the democratic party.

gumbeau · 07-13-2020, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

I have personally witnessed race motivated police brutality. I grew up around racism, as everyone my age from Louisiana has. I know what it is and what it does.

The police have some serious problems with their "Us versus the world" mentality and black Americans bear the brunt of their militarization and decades of immunity from real consequences.

It is a good thing that it is finally getting some serious attention.

However, that does not change the fact that, while black lives matter, Black Lives Matter is a racist, Marxist, totalitarian organization desirous of the power and wealth that would come from the successful implementation of their revolutionary ideology. They were rather open about this but the last few weeks have resulted in full spin mode with some rather laughable denials.

Danno · 07-13-2020, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

nola_swammi · 07-14-2020, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Where is the link

rezburna · 07-14-2020, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

AsylumGuido · 07-14-2020, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

Shreveport is one of the eleven cities selected to test UBI (Universal basic income), along with Los Angeles and Atlanta.

"The mayors of Los Angeles; Oakland, California; Atlanta, Georgia; Tacoma, Washington, Newark, New Jersey; Saint Paul, Minnesota; Jackson, Mississippi; Compton, California; Shreveport, Louisiana and Stockton, California, have joined Mayors For A Guaranteed Income, a coalition advocating for UBI policies, or the idea of giving out recurring cash payments to all individuals without any strings attached."

This is proposed for all Americans, as well. Automation is eliminating jobs at record levels and this is a proposed solution for lowering poverty.

The Dude · 07-14-2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

rezburna · 07-14-2020, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward.

BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on.

There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry.

It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions.

spkb25 · 07-14-2020, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too.

07-13-2020, 06:38 PM	#1
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by gumbeau BLM is a racist, Marxist totalitarian revolutionary movement using people to further their quest for power and money. You and Drew Brees are just pawns in their game. You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. OldMaid and shawnkytonk like this.

07-13-2020, 09:20 PM	#2
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. Well one of the BLM founders said openly in an interview that they are trained marxists, so theres your proof. As for your apples to oranges cancer comparison, there are statistical and scientific FACTS in abundance behind cancer. The "facts" and statistics that BLM throws out are cherry picked and demonstrably false when you take a step back and look at the bigger picture. If black folks really want change and equality they should stop voting democrat. That party has kept them under foot since before the civil war. They incentivize broken families and dependence on the government by dangling welfare, food stamps and section 8 in front of them and making it extremely difficult to qualify for any of them if you're married. The housing they provide is always ****ty and the benefits are barely enough to survive on, and if you go get yourself a job they'll slash or eliminate your benefits, so unless you find a job that pays really well, you're in no better shape..possibly worse. They promise black folks the world every election cycle and never deliver. Obama had a democrat majority in the house and Senate, he did nothing for blacks. The only thing that changed was that the black unemployment rate doubled under his "leadership." This is what frustrates me most about the BLM stuff, of all the fingers being pointed, none are being pointed at the actual source of the problem. There is actual, provable systemic racism at the root of the democratic party. SaintGup and OldMaid like this.
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07-13-2020, 09:31 PM	#3
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. I have personally witnessed race motivated police brutality. I grew up around racism, as everyone my age from Louisiana has. I know what it is and what it does. The police have some serious problems with their "Us versus the world" mentality and black Americans bear the brunt of their militarization and decades of immunity from real consequences. It is a good thing that it is finally getting some serious attention. However, that does not change the fact that, while black lives matter, Black Lives Matter is a racist, Marxist, totalitarian organization desirous of the power and wealth that would come from the successful implementation of their revolutionary ideology. They were rather open about this but the last few weeks have resulted in full spin mode with some rather laughable denials. iceshack149 likes this.

07-13-2020, 10:37 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. According to their website 1) Defund the police 2) Reparations for slavery 3) Guaranteed income for minorities 4) Free college and open admissions 5) Political prisoners in jails to be released 6) Voting age lowered to 16

07-14-2020, 12:52 AM	#5
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by Danno According to their website 1) Defund the police 2) Reparations for slavery 3) Guaranteed income for minorities 4) Free college and open admissions 5) Political prisoners in jails to be released 6) Voting age lowered to 16 Where is the link

07-14-2020, 07:37 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by Danno According to their website 1) Defund the police 2) Reparations for slavery 3) Guaranteed income for minorities 4) Free college and open admissions 5) Political prisoners in jails to be released 6) Voting age lowered to 16 Sounds like reform and policies to me. 1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going. 2. Money and land for descendants of slavery. 3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang. 4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans. 5. Political prisoners should definitely be released. 6. Another policy change for ALL Americans. I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it. AsylumGuido likes this.
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07-14-2020, 09:08 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by rezburna Sounds like reform and policies to me. 1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going. 2. Money and land for descendants of slavery. 3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang. 4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans. 5. Political prisoners should definitely be released. 6. Another policy change for ALL Americans. I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it. Shreveport is one of the eleven cities selected to test UBI (Universal basic income), along with Los Angeles and Atlanta. "The mayors of Los Angeles; Oakland, California; Atlanta, Georgia; Tacoma, Washington, Newark, New Jersey; Saint Paul, Minnesota; Jackson, Mississippi; Compton, California; Shreveport, Louisiana and Stockton, California, have joined Mayors For A Guaranteed Income, a coalition advocating for UBI policies, or the idea of giving out recurring cash payments to all individuals without any strings attached." This is proposed for all Americans, as well. Automation is eliminating jobs at record levels and this is a proposed solution for lowering poverty. rezburna likes this.

07-14-2020, 04:10 PM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT. BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. Danno likes this.
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07-14-2020, 04:50 PM	#9
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by The Dude BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward. BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on. There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry. It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions. The Dude likes this.
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07-14-2020, 04:55 PM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Drew Brees-Desean Jackson Originally Posted by The Dude BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea. Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good. I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda. Black babies are being killed by the dozen and these dumbasses. BTW please donate to help these parents bury their babies. Theyre going through enough due to these dumbass black Americans to have to be concerned with that too.