Already having MLB games cancelled because of Coroanvirus

AsylumGuido · 07-28-2020, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

It's the most important thing in terms of football right now. We can talk about trades, depth charts, and rookies all we want, but if we never play it doesn't matter. Anytime something related, like 2 MLB getting cancelled, occurs that gives some predictive indication of how an NFL season would go, it is worthy of being discussed. The NFL will run into these same issues if it goes ahead with its season. Someone said in a earlier post that these games would be easy to replay, because MLB postpones games all the time. We're talking about a team being out for two weeks of games. When you have the playoffs scheduled and stuff, I don't see how you fit two weeks(which may be an underestimate) of just 4 teams games before the playoffs. If this happened in the NFL(the NFL has much larger rosters, players come into direct contact with other teams more) how are you going to play 2-3(probably 3) games before the playoffs? What if the team has another wave of infections and they need to play even more games. The logistics of playing the NFL season seem incredibly difficult and the MLB is giving us a clue of just how difficult its going to be. It doesn't appear as if the NFL is going to adopt a bubble format, so I don't see how the above scenarios of teams being out for weeks is avoidable.

The teams are not going to be out for two weeks. Only the infected players will be out until cleared. There are players available to fill out the lineup for the upcoming games. The same will be the case in the NFL, but they have the advantage of playing a game once a week instead of every day. There should be no need to cancel games. And don't expect any large breakouts like what happened with the Marlins. The NFL protocols are already planned to be far more stringent than the MLB. There is also going to be rapid testing (some as quick a turnaround as SEVEN MINUTES.)

hitta · 07-28-2020, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The teams are not going to be out for two weeks. Only the infected players will be out until cleared. There are players available to fill out the lineup for the upcoming games. The same will be the case in the NFL, but they have the advantage of playing a game once a week instead of every day. There should be no need to cancel games. And don't expect any large breakouts like what happened with the Marlins. The NFL protocols are already planned to be far more stringent than the MLB. There is also going to be rapid testing (some as quick a turnaround as SEVEN MINUTES.)

How do you play games when over half your active roster has tested positive for coronavirus like the Marlins? Even if it was a smaller amount of players, there are logistical issues with playing games right after a pocket of players has tested positive or players that have tested positive have came in contact with other players on your team, one of them being that PCR tests actually have horrible accuracy. If a player gets through the testing and has a false negative due to that player having a low viral load in their upper respiratory system, then it leaves other players and teams vulnerable to suffering from waves of infection.

AsylumGuido · 07-28-2020, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

How do you play games when over half your active roster has tested positive for coronavirus like the Marlins? Even if it was a smaller amount of players, there are logistical issues with playing games right after a pocket of players has tested positive or players that have tested positive have came in contact with other players on your team, one of them being that PCR tests actually have horrible accuracy. If a player gets through the testing and has a false negative due to that player having a low viral load in their upper respiratory system, then it leaves other players and teams vulnerable to suffering from waves of infection.

First of all, the Marlins ignored protocols and played players that had tested positive. By the way, I just heard that no one associated with the Phillies, the team they played, has tested positive. Had the Marlins followed protocols like the 29 other MLB teams they would not have had this issue. What you see with the Marlins is a totally botched outlier. And as it is there may only be two games postponed. I can't wait to hear all the details about the Marlins cases. How much you want to bet that nightclubs were involved?

But, once again, the NFL protocols are FAR more restrictive. All personnel are required to pass multiple tests prior to playing a game. They have to have two negatives before ever entering the facilities and will be tested daily for the first two weeks and every other day after that except for the day before a game and on gameday. You really can't compare the leagues with one playing every day and the other only once a week. It is going to be very difficult to have an outbreak of any sorts with the protocols being followed in the NFL. I know several people who have tested positive and every one of them either ignorantly ignored standard safety protocols or hung around others that did. If people are smart about it the chances of being infected or spreading the virus is close to nil.

AsylumGuido · 07-28-2020, 11:04 AM

But then, some people tend to expect the very worst and I tend to expect the very best. Many people here were saying a couple of months ago that there was no way a season could even be attempted or that a training camp was even possible.

07-28-2020, 06:50 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Already having MLB games cancelled because of Coroanvirus Originally Posted by hitta It's the most important thing in terms of football right now. We can talk about trades, depth charts, and rookies all we want, but if we never play it doesn't matter. Anytime something related, like 2 MLB getting cancelled, occurs that gives some predictive indication of how an NFL season would go, it is worthy of being discussed. The NFL will run into these same issues if it goes ahead with its season. Someone said in a earlier post that these games would be easy to replay, because MLB postpones games all the time. We're talking about a team being out for two weeks of games. When you have the playoffs scheduled and stuff, I don't see how you fit two weeks(which may be an underestimate) of just 4 teams games before the playoffs. If this happened in the NFL(the NFL has much larger rosters, players come into direct contact with other teams more) how are you going to play 2-3(probably 3) games before the playoffs? What if the team has another wave of infections and they need to play even more games. The logistics of playing the NFL season seem incredibly difficult and the MLB is giving us a clue of just how difficult its going to be. It doesn't appear as if the NFL is going to adopt a bubble format, so I don't see how the above scenarios of teams being out for weeks is avoidable. The teams are not going to be out for two weeks. Only the infected players will be out until cleared. There are players available to fill out the lineup for the upcoming games. The same will be the case in the NFL, but they have the advantage of playing a game once a week instead of every day. There should be no need to cancel games. And don't expect any large breakouts like what happened with the Marlins. The NFL protocols are already planned to be far more stringent than the MLB. There is also going to be rapid testing (some as quick a turnaround as SEVEN MINUTES.) OldMaid likes this.
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07-28-2020, 09:38 AM	#2
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,343	Re: Already having MLB games cancelled because of Coroanvirus Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The teams are not going to be out for two weeks. Only the infected players will be out until cleared. There are players available to fill out the lineup for the upcoming games. The same will be the case in the NFL, but they have the advantage of playing a game once a week instead of every day. There should be no need to cancel games. And don't expect any large breakouts like what happened with the Marlins. The NFL protocols are already planned to be far more stringent than the MLB. There is also going to be rapid testing (some as quick a turnaround as SEVEN MINUTES.) How do you play games when over half your active roster has tested positive for coronavirus like the Marlins? Even if it was a smaller amount of players, there are logistical issues with playing games right after a pocket of players has tested positive or players that have tested positive have came in contact with other players on your team, one of them being that PCR tests actually have horrible accuracy. If a player gets through the testing and has a false negative due to that player having a low viral load in their upper respiratory system, then it leaves other players and teams vulnerable to suffering from waves of infection. OldMaid likes this.
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07-28-2020, 11:00 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Already having MLB games cancelled because of Coroanvirus Originally Posted by hitta How do you play games when over half your active roster has tested positive for coronavirus like the Marlins? Even if it was a smaller amount of players, there are logistical issues with playing games right after a pocket of players has tested positive or players that have tested positive have came in contact with other players on your team, one of them being that PCR tests actually have horrible accuracy. If a player gets through the testing and has a false negative due to that player having a low viral load in their upper respiratory system, then it leaves other players and teams vulnerable to suffering from waves of infection. First of all, the Marlins ignored protocols and played players that had tested positive. By the way, I just heard that no one associated with the Phillies, the team they played, has tested positive. Had the Marlins followed protocols like the 29 other MLB teams they would not have had this issue. What you see with the Marlins is a totally botched outlier. And as it is there may only be two games postponed. I can't wait to hear all the details about the Marlins cases. How much you want to bet that nightclubs were involved? But, once again, the NFL protocols are FAR more restrictive. All personnel are required to pass multiple tests prior to playing a game. They have to have two negatives before ever entering the facilities and will be tested daily for the first two weeks and every other day after that except for the day before a game and on gameday. You really can't compare the leagues with one playing every day and the other only once a week. It is going to be very difficult to have an outbreak of any sorts with the protocols being followed in the NFL. I know several people who have tested positive and every one of them either ignorantly ignored standard safety protocols or hung around others that did. If people are smart about it the chances of being infected or spreading the virus is close to nil. OldMaid likes this.
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07-28-2020, 11:04 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Already having MLB games cancelled because of Coroanvirus But then, some people tend to expect the very worst and I tend to expect the very best. Many people here were saying a couple of months ago that there was no way a season could even be attempted or that a training camp was even possible. OldMaid likes this.