Barry Hirstius: TRE’QUAN IN TROUBLE? Saints Receiver Competition Could Go “Down to the Wire”

jeanpierre · 08-20-2020, 09:27 AM

K Major · 08-20-2020, 09:37 AM

I don't think Tre will lose his job in New Orleans, however he clearly has room to improve.

Anyone who blocks well will have a place on Sean Payton's team.

Beastmode · 08-20-2020, 10:21 AM

Suppose to be a jump ball guru. Straight up route running he could totally get beat out by a couple receivers.

jeanpierre · 08-20-2020, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Suppose to be a jump ball guru. Straight up route running he could totally get beat out by a couple receivers.

You know Beast, understand there's chatter about that, including draft hype from Payton on local TV, but in Tre'Quan's scouting reports, that was among some of the red flags...

SmashMouth · 08-20-2020, 06:26 PM

TreQ should've stepped up by now. This ain't high school no more. There is a reason we went after Sanders. He makes the team this year, but next year, likely not if he keeps up this kind of performance.

Rugby Saint II · 08-20-2020, 06:41 PM

Here we go again with Payton moving players to a new position. He moved him from outside to inside where he played so well when we drafted him. No wonder he's struggling. Square peg meet round hole.

AsylumGuido · 08-20-2020, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Here we go again with Payton moving players to a new position. He moved him from outside to inside where he played so well when we drafted him. No wonder he's struggling. Square peg meet round hole.

WR's better be able to swing through all positions or they are not going to fit in our offense. There is one position for WR in the Saints ultimate offense and that is the X, Y, Z, slot, whatever. If you can't cut them all you are a weak link.

jeanpierre · 08-20-2020, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

WR's better be able to swing through all positions or they are not going to fit in our offense. There is one position for WR in the Saints ultimate offense and that is the X, Y, Z, slot, whatever. If you can't cut them all you are a weak link.

Sean Payton is definitely House Loki - It's all about MisDirection...

His players are faster, get separation, always seem to beat their man to a spot because he's got defenses thinking, slowing them down to counter for anything...

Saints' offense attacks in multiple ways out of the same sets, so right off, Payton's always taking away nearly all pre-snap reads...

But when defenses know a WR can only run one or two routes (e.g. Ted Ginn, Tre'Quan Smith), they can sit in zones and set up to trap Brees' throws on time...

WRs in a Saints' offense have more responsibilities (e.g. pre-snap reads, initial snap adjustments, blocking) than in most other conventional offenses...

While you could argue we don't have the most physically talented receivers, we usually have the smartest, most prepared, most disciplined wide receivers in the league...

jeanpierre · 08-21-2020, 12:25 PM

jeanpierre · 08-21-2020, 01:49 PM

08-20-2020, 09:27 AM	#1
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Barry Hirstius: TRE’QUAN IN TROUBLE? Saints Receiver Competition Could Go “Down to the Wire” I don't think Tre will lose his job in New Orleans, however he clearly has room to improve. Anyone who blocks well will have a place on Sean Payton's team. ChrisXVI likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Barry Hirstius: TRE’QUAN IN TROUBLE? Saints Receiver Competition Could Go “Down to the Wire” Originally Posted by Beastmode Suppose to be a jump ball guru. Straight up route running he could totally get beat out by a couple receivers. You know Beast, understand there's chatter about that, including draft hype from Payton on local TV, but in Tre'Quan's scouting reports, that was among some of the red flags... SmashMouth likes this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Barry Hirstius: TRE’QUAN IN TROUBLE? Saints Receiver Competition Could Go “Down to the Wire” Here we go again with Payton moving players to a new position. He moved him from outside to inside where he played so well when we drafted him. No wonder he's struggling. Square peg meet round hole. jeanpierre likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Barry Hirstius: TRE’QUAN IN TROUBLE? Saints Receiver Competition Could Go “Down to the Wire” Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Here we go again with Payton moving players to a new position. He moved him from outside to inside where he played so well when we drafted him. No wonder he's struggling. Square peg meet round hole. WR's better be able to swing through all positions or they are not going to fit in our offense. There is one position for WR in the Saints ultimate offense and that is the X, Y, Z, slot, whatever. If you can't cut them all you are a weak link. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Barry Hirstius: TRE’QUAN IN TROUBLE? Saints Receiver Competition Could Go “Down to the Wire” Originally Posted by AsylumGuido WR's better be able to swing through all positions or they are not going to fit in our offense. There is one position for WR in the Saints ultimate offense and that is the X, Y, Z, slot, whatever. If you can't cut them all you are a weak link. Sean Payton is definitely House Loki - It's all about MisDirection... His players are faster, get separation, always seem to beat their man to a spot because he's got defenses thinking, slowing them down to counter for anything... Saints' offense attacks in multiple ways out of the same sets, so right off, Payton's always taking away nearly all pre-snap reads... But when defenses know a WR can only run one or two routes (e.g. Ted Ginn, Tre'Quan Smith), they can sit in zones and set up to trap Brees' throws on time... WRs in a Saints' offense have more responsibilities (e.g. pre-snap reads, initial snap adjustments, blocking) than in most other conventional offenses... While you could argue we don't have the most physically talented receivers, we usually have the smartest, most prepared, most disciplined wide receivers in the league... saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.
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