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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintfan Alvin is worth every penny. Yep, I do not get the negativity in some of the replies. There is a ton of nuance missing in direct comparisons; in the McCaffrey vs. Kamara , Kamara beats McCaffery ...

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Old 09-13-2020, 02:22 AM   #1
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Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion

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Alvin is worth every penny.
Yep, I do not get the negativity in some of the replies. There is a ton of nuance missing in direct comparisons; in the McCaffrey vs. Kamara , Kamara beats McCaffery in statistics that aren't impacted by play choice and coaching style.. and does it with an injured 2019.

McCaffery didn't have to split time with Ingram or Murry because that's is the coaches style. There are different teams that use RBs in very different ways and as you can see below, with very different outcomes.
2017-2019
Panthers 23W - 25L (Play offs in 2017 beat by Saints)
Saints 37 W - 11L (Play offs every year with Kamara)

I can not see a way to state with reasonable certainty that if McCaffery were in a Saints jersey for the last 3 years he would have out performed Kamara. Kamara's numbers represent his value to the team and this offense which is clear in the advanced stats.

McCaffery didn't have to run behind Peat last year either.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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Old 09-13-2020, 10:59 AM   #2
 
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Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion

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Yep, I do not get the negativity in some of the replies. There is a ton of nuance missing in direct comparisons; in the McCaffrey vs. Kamara , Kamara beats McCaffery in statistics that aren't impacted by play choice and coaching style.. and does it with an injured 2019.

McCaffery didn't have to split time with Ingram or Murry because that's is the coaches style. There are different teams that use RBs in very different ways and as you can see below, with very different outcomes.
2017-2019
Panthers 23W - 25L (Play offs in 2017 beat by Saints)
Saints 37 W - 11L (Play offs every year with Kamara)

I can not see a way to state with reasonable certainty that if McCaffery were in a Saints jersey for the last 3 years he would have out performed Kamara. Kamara's numbers represent his value to the team and this offense which is clear in the advanced stats.

McCaffery didn't have to run behind Peat last year either.
So what are you implying about Popeyes Sammich Peat?

In all seriousness, glad for Kamara. But we're all hoping he returns to form.




BTW... is Kamara giving BnG 10% as a thank you?

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Old 09-13-2020, 11:20 AM   #3
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Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion

Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
So what are you implying about Popeyes Sammich Peat?

In all seriousness, glad for Kamara. But we're all hoping he returns to form.




BTW... is Kamara giving BnG 10% as a thank you?
There is no reason he shouldn't return to that form with the healthy knee and ankle.
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Old 09-13-2020, 04:04 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
So what are you implying about Popeyes Sammich Peat?

In all seriousness, glad for Kamara. But we're all hoping he returns to form.




BTW... is Kamara giving BnG 10% as a thank you?
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I hope ENERYONE returns to their prime form. Especially Sean Payton.
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