Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

AsylumGuido · 09-11-2020, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Smh, Davenport will never, ever be healthy.

Always a reason that he'll never live up to his potential. May aswell wrap the guy in bubble wrap and let him out on Gameday, but one of the bubbles popping would probably rupture a tendon or something.

I've mentioned this before, but you can't say never. The NFL is littered with players who have experienced injuries early in their careers and have gone on to have outstanding careers. He has suffered a turf toe, lis franc and now something that we have no idea of the severity with his elbow. Totally unrelated. Yet you can be sure he'll "never, ever be healthy"?

Um, okay. Would you mind passing on the winner of the Queen's Stake at Kentucky Downs this weekend since you've got that crystal ball all shined up?

AsylumGuido · 09-11-2020, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Our other 1st rounder RUIZ with a DNP & OUT on Sunday is equally discouraging. Will we see Davenport NEXT week? ... hopefully so but his overall inability to put Brady on his a** on a national stage is deflating.

Maybe Granderson is hyped to show what he can do.

Next man up. Bruce Arians won't give a damn about our injuries.

I am more concerned with Ruiz being out. And, yes, Granderson is in a positions tomake a statement himself this week.

gosaints1 · 09-11-2020, 05:12 PM

The best predictor of future behavior or performance is past behavior or performance. Is it a dogmatic eventuality? Nope, not even close, but those that question repeated injuries, regardless of whether the injuries are related, are not unwise, imho.

jeanpierre · 09-11-2020, 05:34 PM

AND for the record, as my blog from a year ago will attest, I've never disliked Davenport, I just disliked the pick; it was foolish bravado putting that much into that young an unproven, tested player...

The Ruiz injury is awful and will delay, hopefully not derail, his development and acclimation to the NFL, Saints' offensive line...

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The Dude · 09-11-2020, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

The best predictor of future behavior or performance is past behavior or performance. Is it a dogmatic eventuality? Nope, not even close, but those that question repeated injuries, regardless of whether the injuries are related, are not unwise, imho.

Exactly. I would love to know who these injured players are that are “littered” around the NFL after missing significant time their first 3 years. There are a few like Ingram but these players are in the minority. Especially first rounders.

jeanpierre · 09-11-2020, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Exactly. I would love to know who these injured players are that are “littered” around the NFL after missing significant time their first 3 years. There are a few like Ingram but these players are in the minority. Especially first rounders.

No, the Saints don't have exclusivity on oft-injured players; Browns, Jets, and Dolphins have had stretches where their No. 1's never played, or played for long, their rookie years...

jeanpierre · 09-11-2020, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I get very little satisfaction winning a wager on a injured player but ...

Davenport will be injury prone until he's no longer injury prone.

Wonder how patient coach will be with him ... we all know Sean P has limited patience with injured players. Just ask Keenan Lewis, Bryd and Breaux.

Actually, I thought Payton/Loomis were very patient with Byrd - too patient...

Lewis injury gave me pause about the Saints' partnership with Ochsner, though Westbank's public whining turned me off; however, I felt remorse judging Westbank after Breaux's injury, details were reported...

Then there's the incompetence that came to light with the Nick Fairley Affair; and after the year I've had losing all my family in one year, I'm not exactly a big fan of Ochsner...

gosaints1 · 09-11-2020, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AND for the record, as my blog from a year ago will attest, I've never disliked Davenport, I just disliked the pick; it was foolish bravado putting that much into that young an unproven...

Aren’t all college players “unproven” though? Heck, the number of “proven” college players that litter practice squads today or are even without an NFL job are legion.

The Saints clearly targeted a very specific person and they made the necessary trades in order to make that player a starter here. I understand the arguments that it was expensive, and I’ll even stipulate that as of right now it is proving to have been an unwise move. That being said, I like the aggressiveness instead of staying put at a static drafting point and accepting what falls to us.

jeanpierre · 09-11-2020, 05:47 PM

On the bright side, no one should be complaining now of how many offensive linemen we kept this year, nor that we kept Nick Easton's expensive contract...

Brother Kevin, is grinning in that rocking chair looking down, and I can almost hear him saying, told ya we should be keeping more than eight...

jeanpierre · 09-11-2020, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Aren’t all college players “unproven” though? Heck, the number of “proven” college players that litter practice squads today or are even without an NFL job are legion.

The Saints clearly targeted a very specific person and they made the necessary trades in order to make that player a starter here. I understand the arguments that it was expensive, and I’ll even stipulate that as of right now it is proving to have been an unwise move. That being said, I like the aggressiveness instead of staying put at a static drafting point and accepting what falls to us.

Small school, level of competition, untested, only one year of remarkable play, and you would sink not one, but two first round picks in that player?

If he'd played in the SEC or ACC or even the Big 10, facing Professional Talent every week, and had two years of that production, then you'd have better film, data to back that decision...

And regarding the level of play, that'd be film with real test of physicality and endurance and durability...

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Originally Posted by dizzle88 Smh, Davenport will never, ever be healthy. Always a reason that he'll never live up to his potential. May aswell wrap the guy in bubble wrap and let him out on Gameday, but one of the bubbles popping would probably rupture a tendon or something. I've mentioned this before, but you can't say never. The NFL is littered with players who have experienced injuries early in their careers and have gone on to have outstanding careers. He has suffered a turf toe, lis franc and now something that we have no idea of the severity with his elbow. Totally unrelated. Yet you can be sure he'll "never, ever be healthy"? Um, okay. Would you mind passing on the winner of the Queen's Stake at Kentucky Downs this weekend since you've got that crystal ball all shined up?

09-11-2020, 05:09 PM	#42
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Originally Posted by K Major Our other 1st rounder RUIZ with a DNP & OUT on Sunday is equally discouraging. Will we see Davenport NEXT week? ... hopefully so but his overall inability to put Brady on his a on a national stage is deflating. Maybe Granderson is hyped to show what he can do. Next man up**. Bruce Arians won't give a damn about our injuries. I am more concerned with Ruiz being out. And, yes, Granderson is in a positions tomake a statement himself this week.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Originally Posted by The Dude Exactly. I would love to know who these injured players are that are “littered” around the NFL after missing significant time their first 3 years. There are a few like Ingram but these players are in the minority. Especially first rounders. No, the Saints don't have exclusivity on oft-injured players; Browns, Jets, and Dolphins have had stretches where their No. 1's never played, or played for long, their rookie years...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Originally Posted by K Major I get very little satisfaction winning a wager on a injured player but ... Davenport will be injury prone until he's no longer injury prone. Wonder how patient coach will be with him ... we all know Sean P has limited patience with injured players. Just ask Keenan Lewis, Bryd and Breaux. Actually, I thought Payton/Loomis were very patient with Byrd - too patient... Lewis injury gave me pause about the Saints' partnership with Ochsner, though Westbank's public whining turned me off; however, I felt remorse judging Westbank after Breaux's injury, details were reported... Then there's the incompetence that came to light with the Nick Fairley Affair; and after the year I've had losing all my family in one year, I'm not exactly a big fan of Ochsner... K Major likes this.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Originally Posted by jeanpierre AND for the record, as my blog from a year ago will attest, I've never disliked Davenport, I just disliked the pick; it was foolish bravado putting that much into that young an unproven... Aren’t all college players “unproven” though? Heck, the number of “proven” college players that litter practice squads today or are even without an NFL job are legion. The Saints clearly targeted a very specific person and they made the necessary trades in order to make that player a starter here. I understand the arguments that it was expensive, and I’ll even stipulate that as of right now it is proving to have been an unwise move. That being said, I like the aggressiveness instead of staying put at a static drafting point and accepting what falls to us.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers On the bright side, no one should be complaining now of how many offensive linemen we kept this year, nor that we kept Nick Easton's expensive contract... Brother Kevin, is grinning in that rocking chair looking down, and I can almost hear him saying, told ya we should be keeping more than eight... K Major likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Wednesday Injury Report: 2020 Week 1 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Originally Posted by gosaints1 Aren’t all college players “unproven” though? Heck, the number of “proven” college players that litter practice squads today or are even without an NFL job are legion. The Saints clearly targeted a very specific person and they made the necessary trades in order to make that player a starter here. I understand the arguments that it was expensive, and I’ll even stipulate that as of right now it is proving to have been an unwise move. That being said, I like the aggressiveness instead of staying put at a static drafting point and accepting what falls to us. Small school, level of competition, untested, only one year of remarkable play, and you would sink not one, but two first round picks in that player? If he'd played in the SEC or ACC or even the Big 10, facing Professional Talent every week, and had two years of that production, then you'd have better film, data to back that decision... And regarding the level of play, that'd be film with real test of physicality and endurance and durability... gosaints1 likes this.