Originally Posted by Flipx99 (Post 895965)

I doubt Jacob Blake's victim cares too much for the distinction you are trying to make. The man is a repeat sexual offender and his victim deserves to have what he did to her to be taken into consideration before celebrity athletes adorn their helmets with his name.

I can see where there is room to argue against the position that kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful to the military. I can also see the argument for why it is disrespectful to those who have served, even if that is not the intent.

What I can't agree with is the position that kneeling is not disrespectful to the National Anthem and the flag. O have heard that argument made and it is, IMO, disingenuous. Showing contempt is exactly the purpose.

If anyone had any doubt that "the movement" was destructive before Memorial Day, there has been more than enough evidence since to remove that doubt. The people who have suffered the most are the most vulnerable who live in those communities.

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 895951)

37-11 during the regular season, but 2-3 when the games actually matter.

Three seasons, Three failures on an epic level, including going 13-3 and losing in a wild card game.

That being said, I also think the Saints are a better team, “top to bottom” than the last three years of playoff failures have proven. The Saints are going to need those players to take success to the next level. Problem with the mindset of going “all in” is that if you don’t actually win the entire enchilada, then the entire year is a waste.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 895956)

I don't remember anyone declaring Jacob Blake as any sort of "hero". Nor any of the others being recognized as having been inequitably treated by a few bad cops. The name tags were there as a gesture agreed upon via vote by the whole team. Every single player had the same name tag on their helmet. The individual players did not make that decision independently. But, regardless, the labeling it as hero worship of some sort is ludicrous and totally misinformed, just as the ludicrous notion that kneeling during the national anthem had something to do with the military. A number of persons made that connection because they were upset that the "uppity" blacks were complaining. These people claimed that they were upset because the military was being disrespected by the kneeling and claimed that the "uppity" blacks should find another way to protest. Well, now the same people are complaining about this other method of bringing attention to the inequalities. Is it truly the military being disrespected or are the "uppity" blacks and white snowflakes disrespecting someone else, instead?

Originally Posted by Flipx99 (Post 895965)

I doubt Jacob Blake's victim cares too much for the distinction you are trying to make. The man is a repeat sexual offender and his victim deserves to have what he did to her to be taken into consideration before celebrity athletes adorn their helmets with his name.

I can see where there is room to argue against the position that kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful to the military. I can also see the argument for why it is disrespectful to those who have served, even if that is not the intent.

What I can't agree with is the position that kneeling is not disrespectful to the National Anthem and the flag. O have heard that argument made and it is, IMO, disingenuous. Showing contempt is exactly the purpose.

If anyone had any doubt that "the movement" was destructive before Memorial Day, there has been more than enough evidence since to remove that doubt. The people who have suffered the most are the most vulnerable who live in those communities.

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 895989)

Man AG, how totally divorced from reality you are.

"A number of persons made that connection because they were upset that the "uppity" blacks were complaining."
-Just a idiotic statement

People are praising Blake and putting his name on the uniform acknowledges that.

Here is your VP candidate praising Blake... https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...of-jacob-blake

The NFL is going to honor Blake and other criminals because they were mistreated by the justice system (mistreatment happens to all races). However, when the cowboys wanted to honor 6 police officers that were murdered they were not allowed... odd set of values there.

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 895988)

I think the playoff loses are more on Payton’s questionable gameplan, halftime adjustments and god awful clock management than Drew. And to be honest Zimmer just has Payton’s ass. He’s too cute and stubborn.

Originally Posted by Flipx99 (Post 895918)

If he gets near the NFCG he will most likely choke. But, after the game he can drop Brittany off at Jacob Blake's house and let her show how proud they are of him.

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 895993)

Agreed, a million percent. In all truthiness, everybody has a difference of opinion on why the last three years ended the way they did. None are dogmatically right, none are dogmatically wrong either. Just differences of how we see things.

When it comes to Payton, I’ve taken the “live by the sword, you die...” attitude. He gets too “fancy” and “gadgety” in quite a few situations. It worked in 2009, but look at his postseason record since the SuperBowl year. We haven’t been above .500 in any of those years..., I’ll remind you, that’s a decade of futility.

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 895993)

Agreed, a million percent. In all truthiness, everybody has a difference of opinion on why the last three years ended the way they did. None are dogmatically right, none are dogmatically wrong either. Just differences of how we see things.

When it comes to Payton, I’ve taken the “live by the sword, you die...” attitude. He gets too “fancy” and “gadgety” in quite a few situations. It worked in 2009, but look at his postseason record since the SuperBowl year. We haven’t been above .500 in any of those years..., I’ll remind you, that’s a decade of futility.