Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 895999)

I agree and I’ll go even further with Payton. The years when Drew was in his prime it was pissed away by bad defenses, bad signings, and bad drafting all of which Payton has control of. Loomis is just the bean counter. Thank god for Ireland helping quell Sean with the *****y drafting or we’d really be up sh*t creek. Now I’m not giving Drew a pass but it’s at least 75% Sean’s fault.

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 896001)

Payton has been getting outcoached in the playoffs since 2010.

The team doesnt have the ability to make that crucial stop or crucial conversion, we always leave the game open for the other team to make the plays, and they always do.

Which is a shame because during the regular season we often look unstoppable at times, then regardless of if we are at home or not, the team looks scared and intimidated in the playoffs. Especially the offense, they just let the opposing defense dictate the game, until late in the 4th quarter where they give us a glimmer of hope and then fall short.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 896003)

And the same question to you. Who is better right now for the Saints? What do you want instead? Who would you have rather had over the past decade?
Give the answer.

Waiting. I have asked this exact question dozens of times on this forum and have never got a real answer.

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 895994)

I already know how you look

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 896005)

No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 896005)

No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 896007)

Right, it seems like he’s lost the edge. Like it worked in 09 it’ll work now

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 896005)

No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 896009)

Works good enough to win more games than anyone else over the past three years. Is that losing the edge?

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 896010)

Agreed, my comments aren’t meant to intimate that Payton isn’t a valuable HC, or that he needs to be cut loose. it’s merely to point out our playoff record, outside of the 2009 SB year isn’t indicative of anything special. For MANY reasons.

I’m not of the mindset that “feel better cuz you could be 3-13” is a legitimate excuse for going 13-3 and losing in the wildcard round.

But..., to each their own.