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It really sucks that Drew is going to go out the way he is - alienating the very people who once stood in line to buy a copy of his book. Hard to believe that a man who folded when we needed him the most once wrote a book emphasizing courage.

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He'll go out on top in few few years with multiple Lombardi's and not worrying about petty individuals that feel somewhat slighted because they are too wrapped up in their little world.

Most of the rest of the world don't give a crap what that tiny minority feels, either.

Who Dat!

:bng:

Love me some Drew Brees!!!

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If he gets near the NFCG he will most likely choke. But, after the game he can drop Brittany off at Jacob Blake's house and let her show how proud they are of him.

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I have no problem with him but if we are losing the boo birds are going to come out quick once fans are back in the stands.

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I can tell even as a relatively new member that you exude a remarkable absence of class. Bravo! Are the forums at KKK.com a little slow these days?

:rolleyes:

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I wasn't aware of any "boo birds" out there to return. Besides, I'm not envisioning the Saints tobe doing much losing once again this season. They are better (on paper) top to bottom than they were each of the past three seasons in which they went 37-11.

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Borrowed time can last several seasons. Although This Jacob Blake crap(rapist and thief) could certainly lead to a quicker exit than Drew had planned.

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I seriously doubt it would have any impact whatsoever on his decision to continue playing after this season. He has repeatedly stated that after every season he is asking himself two questions ... 1) Am I still performing at a high enough level? 2) Do I still love preparing for any playing the game?

As long as the Saints are competitive, as they have been over the past three seasons, I can very easily see the answer to both of those questions being "yes" once again following this season. Especially if we win a second Lombardi. The only other thing that may be a factor is if Tom Brady continues playing. I truly believe Brees wants to keep all of those records he holds for someone other than Brady to catch sometime in the future.

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I believe 2020 is it for Brees ...

Win, lose or draw.

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Most often it’s far better to keep your opinion to yourself and too be thought a fool than express it to the public and confirm the obvious. The Blake issue was way past the Brees BLM Kneeling/Jenkins/Brees’s controversy. You don’t have to agree or like it but your innuendo/comment is unnecessary.:rolleyes:

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We'll see. I know several people that felt the same way after the 2019 season. Only Brees will know for sure and I believe him when he says he won't know until AFTER the season is over and he's had a few weeks to evaluate those two questions.

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Love Styx! I had backstage passes at their Greenville, NC Grand Illusion tour stop back around '77 or '78. Them and Charlie.

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37-11 during the regular season, but 2-3 when the games actually matter.

Three seasons, Three failures on an epic level, including going 13-3 and losing in a wild card game.

That being said, I also think the Saints are a better team, “top to bottom” than the last three years of playoff failures have proven. The Saints are going to need those players to take success to the next level. Problem with the mindset of going “all in” is that if you don’t actually win the entire enchilada, then the entire year is a waste.

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If you never go "all in" you may never even get close to a side of beans and rice, however. In that case you have decades of wasted years.

There is a ton of luck involved in winning a Super Bowl. Only one team can do it every year and it takes plenty of lucky bounces.

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I am more than happy to discuss these issues on the merits. If you feel you can keep up, then let's have it.

I don't know what innuendo you are talking about. Jacob Blake is a sex offender. Drew Brees wore the man's name on his helmet. I think it is disgustingly pathetic.

The point is that no one believes that Drew would allow his wife to be alone with that person, but apparently Drew is okay with propping him up.

That's where this non sensible and evil movement leads people - to say and do things they know are not true. Blake was no hero and we should not treat him as such.

There are real people suffering because of this movement. And Drew is willing to go along with it - and I believe it is all because he wants play long enough to be in the discussion with Manning and Brady as the goat.

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I don't remember anyone declaring Jacob Blake as any sort of "hero". Nor any of the others being recognized as having been inequitably treated by a few bad cops. The name tags were there as a gesture agreed upon via vote by the whole team. Every single player had the same name tag on their helmet. The individual players did not make that decision independently. But, regardless, the labeling it as hero worship of some sort is ludicrous and totally misinformed, just as the ludicrous notion that kneeling during the national anthem had something to do with the military. A number of persons made that connection because they were upset that the "uppity" blacks were complaining. These people claimed that they were upset because the military was being disrespected by the kneeling and claimed that the "uppity" blacks should find another way to protest. Well, now the same people are complaining about this other method of bringing attention to the inequalities. Is it truly the military being disrespected or are the "uppity" blacks and white snowflakes disrespecting someone else, instead?

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I doubt Jacob Blake's victim cares too much for the distinction you are trying to make. The man is a repeat sexual offender and his victim deserves to have what he did to her to be taken into consideration before celebrity athletes adorn their helmets with his name.

I can see where there is room to argue against the position that kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful to the military. I can also see the argument for why it is disrespectful to those who have served, even if that is not the intent.

What I can't agree with is the position that kneeling is not disrespectful to the National Anthem and the flag. O have heard that argument made and it is, IMO, disingenuous. Showing contempt is exactly the purpose.

If anyone had any doubt that "the movement" was destructive before Memorial Day, there has been more than enough evidence since to remove that doubt. The people who have suffered the most are the most vulnerable who live in those communities.

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By the way, why was your account at that other "Saints site" shut down? Did you join over here recently to discuss Saints football or just to find a new venue to share your agenda?

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I think the playoff loses are more on Payton’s questionable gameplan, halftime adjustments and god awful clock management than Drew. And to be honest Zimmer just has Payton’s ass. He’s too cute and stubborn.

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Man AG, how totally divorced from reality you are.

"A number of persons made that connection because they were upset that the "uppity" blacks were complaining."
-Just a idiotic statement

People are praising Blake and putting his name on the uniform acknowledges that.

Here is your VP candidate praising Blake... https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...of-jacob-blake

The NFL is going to honor Blake and other criminals because they were mistreated by the justice system (mistreatment happens to all races). However, when the cowboys wanted to honor 6 police officers that were murdered they were not allowed... odd set of values there.

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First of all, welcome to B&G

Second, don't take AG as a representation of this board. AG may post the most on here but his views are his own, as my views are my own. This forum so far, has had a lot of good discussion back and forth with solid logical discussions. But, word to the wise, avoid the back and forth with some posters, regardless of how convincing your argument they'll stay flatfooted.

Different opinions doesn't make someone your enemy, avoid making someone a villain. I know someone equated one of your first posts to some racist thought, but that's just because of their lack of intellect to challenge you on the merits of your position.

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LOL! My VP candidate? That is too hilarious. I'm voting Trump again. I don't want that brain dead Biden in office destroying my lifetime savings.

And nobody is "honoring" these people that were unfairly treated and nobody "praised" Jacob Blake. You apparently are not aware of the circumstances or wish to event your own narrative. They are using them as examples, blackandgold. BIG difference. It is as simple as that. What are you missing, my friend?

If you would look at it honestly without hate clouding your vision you would recognize that fact.

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Agreed, a million percent. In all truthiness, everybody has a difference of opinion on why the last three years ended the way they did. None are dogmatically right, none are dogmatically wrong either. Just differences of how we see things.

When it comes to Payton, I’ve taken the “live by the sword, you die...” attitude. He gets too “fancy” and “gadgety” in quite a few situations. It worked in 2009, but look at his postseason record since the SuperBowl year. We haven’t been above .500 in any of those years..., I’ll remind you, that’s a decade of futility.

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I already know how you look

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I agree and I’ll go even further with Payton. The years when Drew was in his prime it was pissed away by bad defenses, bad signings, and bad drafting all of which Payton has control of. Loomis is just the bean counter. Thank god for Ireland helping quell Sean with the *****y drafting or we’d really be up sh*t creek. Now I’m not giving Drew a pass but it’s at least 75% Sean’s fault.

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And who could we do better with leading the Saints? Do you honesty believe after 40+ years of total failure that Payton is a failure now? How many other teams never even made it to the post season ever those years? Name every team other than the Patriots that had over a .500 post season record over that time.

Grass is always greener .......

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Payton has been getting outcoached in the playoffs since 2010.

The team doesnt have the ability to make that crucial stop or crucial conversion, we always leave the game open for the other team to make the plays, and they always do.

Which is a shame because during the regular season we often look unstoppable at times, then regardless of if we are at home or not, the team looks scared and intimidated in the playoffs. Especially the offense, they just let the opposing defense dictate the game, until late in the 4th quarter where they give us a glimmer of hope and then fall short.

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See the above reply. Who do you want to do better. Who else has ever even made us relevant? We are spoiled. We could be Detroit if you want? Or the Chargers?

As I said ... the grass is always greener ....

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And the same question to you. Who is better right now for the Saints? What do you want instead? Who would you have rather had over the past decade?
Give the answer.

Waiting. I have asked this exact question dozens of times on this forum and have never got a real answer.

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No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

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Lol, what an odd thing to say.

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Right, it seems like he’s lost the edge. Like it worked in 09 it’ll work now

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But how to do better? He's human. He has done the best job of any coach in Saints history to make us relevant. Give him credit for that. But, how much is truly on him. There are a dozen other coaches, 53 players, all those officials, and the damned shape of the ball that come into play.

What is it exactly he needs to do better? I have to give it to you, diz. You are the first one out of the many others that has even attempted to answer that question.

Much respect!

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Works good enough to win more games than anyone else over the past three years. Is that losing the edge?

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Agreed, my comments aren’t meant to intimate that Payton isn’t a valuable HC, or that he needs to be cut loose. it’s merely to point out our playoff record, outside of the 2009 SB year isn’t indicative of anything special. For MANY reasons.

I’m not of the mindset that “feel better cuz you could be 3-13” is a legitimate excuse for going 13-3 and losing in the wildcard round.

But..., to each their own.

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Sure, while compiling a 2-3 playoff record. Which, imho, is the only record that matters.

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Could that excuse be because of a bad bounce, or a bad call, or a bad play? Yup. That his fault?

;)