Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations

TheOak · 09-14-2020, 05:53 AM

Did anyone notice all the shots that Tom took at our secondary yesterday? That is what QBs know of the Saints secondary, throw it up and if your receiver doesn't catch it there is a high probability of a pass interference call to move the ball.

In true form, we led the league yesterday in DPI and kept NE in the game longer than they should have been because of it.

Defensive Pass Interference in the League Week1:
Saints = 4
One team = 3
Four teams = 2
Eleven teams = 1
Eleven teams = 0

The Dude · 09-14-2020, 07:10 AM

I agree with JP that Tampa is real but it all comes down to how fast they can gel. If they aren’t on the same page soon it’s going to be a steep climb to get on top In this conference.
I could also see the team give up on Brady. They looked like were doing just that at some points in the middle of the 3rd.
It’s got to be frustrating releasing your starting QBs because of interceptions only to turn around and have a HOF QB do the exact same thing week 1.
Could it be that Tampa’s receivers are poor route runners and are a big factor in all the interceptions that seem to plague them? Maybe it’s not really as much of a QB problem as it seems?

jeanpierre · 09-14-2020, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Did anyone notice all the shots that Tom took at our secondary yesterday? That is what QBs know of the Saints secondary, throw it up and if your receiver doesn't catch it there is a high probability of a pass interference call to move the ball.

In true form, we led the league yesterday in DPI and kept NE in the game longer than they should have been because of it.

Defensive Pass Interference in the League Week1:
Saints = 4
One team = 3
Four teams = 2
Eleven teams = 1
Eleven teams = 0

Maybe that's the way to go?

Seahawks did that, the 80s Detroit Pistons Model, play ultra-aggressive so the officials just develop yellow hankie apathy and get self-conscious of how ofter they're throwing their flag...

Then they'll quit flagging the incidental bullshinski, and, you gotta do it early, as those late calls don't give you time to recover in the game...

K Major · 09-14-2020, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Payton should have promoted Mike Nolan to DC; that BS Corner blitz, pulling a CB who effectively shut down Mike Evans is the kind of crap why Dennis Allen should've been relieved in the off-season...

Agree with comments re: DL Coach Ryan Nielsen, a signing I hyped; watching Roach make Rankins expendable, I'd go one step more, Nielsen needs to be in on Draft & Free Agent Prep, Evaluations...

Agreed on Dennis. I'm simply not a fan of his play calling.

As for Coach Nielsen .. that was a damn good hire. His D line has been stout his entire tenure in New Orleans. The Roach kid could become a dawg for us. I was extremely impressed with his performance on yesterday.

ChrisXVI · 09-14-2020, 08:46 AM

Carl Granderson is a big dude. He definitely bulked up over the offseason because I kept seeing #96 and wondering who that DT was lol.

Budsdrinker · 09-14-2020, 08:47 AM

Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point...

Not sure how you can say Drew looked old and compare it to Taysom's throw which was short and had to be waited on. The Bucs D is legit. I agree the play calling was terrible but can't see your assessment on Drew.

The Dude · 09-14-2020, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point...

Not sure how you can say Drew looked old and compare it to Taysom's throw which was short and had to be waited on. The Bucs D is legit. I agree the play calling was terrible but can't see your assessment on Drew.

Yea Drew was off. One of his worst games. This was a glimpse of what the Saints will look like post Brees. This is encouraging because we now have a complete team where offense, defense, and special teams are playing at a high level. Pair that with the talent we have and we won’t need a HOF QB to play at a high level.

K Major · 09-14-2020, 09:09 AM

Rivers, Brees, Golden Boy Brady ... definitely not their best performances on yesterday.

Cruize · 09-14-2020, 09:10 AM

- 1-0. The rest of the NFC South 0-1.
- Harris, coming off a Pro Bowl rookie season, is vastly improved. Quick, decisive and elusive. The best returner in the game. Bad man.
- Hendrickson is a legit NFL DE. Not just a role player.
- Brees was average.
- Kamara looks quick and explosive again.
- Cook is a big weapon.
- Sanders will only get better in this offense.
- Roach has the talent.
- The whole D-Line is active and disruptive.
- Hill should get a series here and there at QB to energize the offense and/or as a change of pace. Not a fan of the QB sweep call. Like the RPO calls better.
- Murray won't show up in the highlights, but his runs were important.
- Kudos to Payton for calling the pooch kick from the 50. Have seen many just kick it out the endzone.
- The NFL should never play another preseason game and they should keep the PS high to develop the players that may have made the team due to preseason games.

jeanpierre · 09-14-2020, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point...

Not sure how you can say Drew looked old and compare it to Taysom's throw which was short and had to be waited on. The Bucs D is legit. I agree the play calling was terrible but can't see your assessment on Drew.

First, Taysom was running left and threw back across the field, downfield to Kamara because the primary receiver didn't tear off up field but sat down allowing the safety to come up on him...

And Brees slightly underthrew Cook on that go pattern, not hitting him in full-stride...

Another Brees' throw, believe it was to Sanders, who ran a route right at the first down marker but had to give up his forward progress to come back to a short ball...

09-14-2020, 05:53 AM	#21
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Did anyone notice all the shots that Tom took at our secondary yesterday? That is what QBs know of the Saints secondary, throw it up and if your receiver doesn't catch it there is a high probability of a pass interference call to move the ball. In true form, we led the league yesterday in DPI and kept NE in the game longer than they should have been because of it. Defensive Pass Interference in the League Week1: Saints = 4 One team = 3 Four teams = 2 Eleven teams = 1 Eleven teams = 0 SmashMouth likes this.

09-14-2020, 07:10 AM	#22
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations I agree with JP that Tampa is real but it all comes down to how fast they can gel. If they aren’t on the same page soon it’s going to be a steep climb to get on top In this conference. I could also see the team give up on Brady. They looked like were doing just that at some points in the middle of the 3rd. It’s got to be frustrating releasing your starting QBs because of interceptions only to turn around and have a HOF QB do the exact same thing week 1. Could it be that Tampa’s receivers are poor route runners and are a big factor in all the interceptions that seem to plague them? Maybe it’s not really as much of a QB problem as it seems? Audiotom likes this.
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09-14-2020, 07:18 AM	#23
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by TheOak Did anyone notice all the shots that Tom took at our secondary yesterday? That is what QBs know of the Saints secondary, throw it up and if your receiver doesn't catch it there is a high probability of a pass interference call to move the ball. In true form, we led the league yesterday in DPI and kept NE in the game longer than they should have been because of it. Defensive Pass Interference in the League Week1: Saints = 4 One team = 3 Four teams = 2 Eleven teams = 1 Eleven teams = 0 Maybe that's the way to go? Seahawks did that, the 80s Detroit Pistons Model, play ultra-aggressive so the officials just develop yellow hankie apathy and get self-conscious of how ofter they're throwing their flag... Then they'll quit flagging the incidental bullshinski, and, you gotta do it early, as those late calls don't give you time to recover in the game... SmashMouth and gosaints1 like this.

09-14-2020, 08:19 AM	#24
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by jeanpierre Payton should have promoted Mike Nolan to DC; that BS Corner blitz, pulling a CB who effectively shut down Mike Evans is the kind of crap why Dennis Allen should've been relieved in the off-season... Agree with comments re: DL Coach Ryan Nielsen, a signing I hyped; watching Roach make Rankins expendable, I'd go one step more, Nielsen needs to be in on Draft & Free Agent Prep, Evaluations... Agreed on Dennis. I'm simply not a fan of his play calling. As for Coach Nielsen .. that was a damn good hire. His D line has been stout his entire tenure in New Orleans. The Roach kid could become a dawg for us. I was extremely impressed with his performance on yesterday. leilung, WillMacKenzie, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

09-14-2020, 08:46 AM	#25
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Carl Granderson is a big dude. He definitely bulked up over the offseason because I kept seeing #96 and wondering who that DT was lol. jeanpierre likes this.

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09-14-2020, 08:47 AM	#26
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point... Not sure how you can say Drew looked old and compare it to Taysom's throw which was short and had to be waited on. The Bucs D is legit. I agree the play calling was terrible but can't see your assessment on Drew.

09-14-2020, 08:59 AM	#27
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point... Not sure how you can say Drew looked old and compare it to Taysom's throw which was short and had to be waited on. The Bucs D is legit. I agree the play calling was terrible but can't see your assessment on Drew. Yea Drew was off. One of his worst games. This was a glimpse of what the Saints will look like post Brees. This is encouraging because we now have a complete team where offense, defense, and special teams are playing at a high level. Pair that with the talent we have and we won’t need a HOF QB to play at a high level.
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09-14-2020, 09:09 AM	#28
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Rivers, Brees, Golden Boy Brady ... definitely not their best performances on yesterday. leilung and jeanpierre like this.

09-14-2020, 09:10 AM	#29
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations - 1-0. The rest of the NFC South 0-1. - Harris, coming off a Pro Bowl rookie season, is vastly improved. Quick, decisive and elusive. The best returner in the game. Bad man. - Hendrickson is a legit NFL DE. Not just a role player. - Brees was average. - Kamara looks quick and explosive again. - Cook is a big weapon. - Sanders will only get better in this offense. - Roach has the talent. - The whole D-Line is active and disruptive. - Hill should get a series here and there at QB to energize the offense and/or as a change of pace. Not a fan of the QB sweep call. Like the RPO calls better. - Murray won't show up in the highlights, but his runs were important. - Kudos to Payton for calling the pooch kick from the 50. Have seen many just kick it out the endzone. - The NFL should never play another preseason game and they should keep the PS high to develop the players that may have made the team due to preseason games. Audiotom likes this.
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09-14-2020, 09:13 AM	#30
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point... Not sure how you can say Drew looked old and compare it to Taysom's throw which was short and had to be waited on. The Bucs D is legit. I agree the play calling was terrible but can't see your assessment on Drew. First, Taysom was running left and threw back across the field, downfield to Kamara because the primary receiver didn't tear off up field but sat down allowing the safety to come up on him... And Brees slightly underthrew Cook on that go pattern, not hitting him in full-stride... Another Brees' throw, believe it was to Sanders, who ran a route right at the first down marker but had to give up his forward progress to come back to a short ball... leilung likes this.