Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations

jeanpierre · 09-14-2020, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

- 1-0. The rest of the NFC South 0-1.
- Harris, coming off a Pro Bowl rookie season, is vastly improved. Quick, decisive and elusive. The best returner in the game. Bad man.
- Hendrickson is a legit NFL DE. Not just a role player.
- Brees was average.
- Kamara looks quick and explosive again.
- Cook is a big weapon.
- Sanders will only get better in this offense.
- Roach has the talent.
- The whole D-Line is active and disruptive.
- Hill should get a series here and there at QB to energize the offense and/or as a change of pace. Not a fan of the QB sweep call. Like the RPO calls better.
- Murray won't show up in the highlights, but his runs were important.
- Kudos to Payton for calling the pooch kick from the 50. Have seen many just kick it out the endzone.
- The NFL should never play another preseason game and they should keep the PS high to develop the players that may have made the team due to preseason games.

And the theme for Week One I'm reading is Sloppy Football; looking at statistics following rotoball, would reinforce that argument...

rezburna · 09-14-2020, 10:14 AM

1. This is the last year we’ll have with Drew Brees. Enjoy it. Teams will continue to sit on the underneath routes and everything in front of them due to our inability to push the ball down the field.

2. If we’re going to run this West Coast offense we need to do a better job of creating and exploiting mismatches. Where are the Texas routes with Kamara and Montgomery? Smash combinations? Double slants? Indeed, playcalling is and has been atrocious.

3. Taysom Hill gives the offense so much more life. Everytime he touches the ball it feels like a big play waiting to happen.

4. The entire secondary was excellent. I could care less about those ticky-tack pass interference calls. We already know the refs love to throw flags on us. It is what it is. I was extremely impressed with the defense as a whole.

5. Dennis Allen? Big trash.

papz · 09-14-2020, 10:20 AM

- That QB sweep with Taysom on 3rd and short was absolutely horrendous.

- Love our DL. Love Cam.

- I wish we had 3 Demario's.

jeanpierre · 09-14-2020, 11:50 AM

jeanpierre · 09-14-2020, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by papz

- That QB sweep with Taysom on 3rd and short was absolutely horrendous.

- Love our DL. Love Cam.

- I wish we had 3 Demario's.

We couldn't afford 3 DeMario's under the salary cap and I thought Anzalone played great as Ellis only saw the field for a limited no. of snaps as we were in nickel, heavy nickel, and heavy dime most of the game...

K Major · 09-14-2020, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We couldn't afford 3 DeMario's under the salary cap and I thought Anzalone and Ellis played great...

I'll need to re visit the replay.

Didn't notice Ellis much. I was zoned in on that def front. David O, Cam, Trey and Roach were getting in.

ChrisXVI · 09-14-2020, 11:55 AM

For all the hype about Gronk coming back, that dude is washed. He got chased down by Onyemata after catching a pass. Lol

Cruize · 09-14-2020, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And the theme for Week One I'm reading is Sloppy Football; looking at statistics following rotoball, would reinforce that argument...

The football can be sloppy in week eight. Match ups make it look that way every week of the season. It's a simple safety issue for me. Just not worth the injury risks. Losing a star, a starter, or even a key special teams player in games that don't count is a waste.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-14-2020, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by papz

- That QB sweep with Taysom on 3rd and short was absolutely horrendous.

It's become too predictable. Payton and Carmichael need to develop an RPO package for Taysom when he's in the QB position. It would function as a triple option set where he could hand off the ball if the LB's take the receiver, throw the ball if the LB crashes the run, or take off himself.

Defenses will continue to pack the LOS until Taysom breaks the tendency to run. Pop the ball over the front 7/8's head enough, and they'll have to back off.

SFIAH

neugey · 09-14-2020, 01:28 PM

For plays where Taysom is the QB, we should emulate what the Patriots did with Cam yesterday. Nothing fancy, just technically sound option football and execution, set up high percentage passes with the double mobility factor in the backfield.

09-14-2020, 09:16 AM	#31
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by Cruize - 1-0. The rest of the NFC South 0-1. - Harris, coming off a Pro Bowl rookie season, is vastly improved. Quick, decisive and elusive. The best returner in the game. Bad man. - Hendrickson is a legit NFL DE. Not just a role player. - Brees was average. - Kamara looks quick and explosive again. - Cook is a big weapon. - Sanders will only get better in this offense. - Roach has the talent. - The whole D-Line is active and disruptive. - Hill should get a series here and there at QB to energize the offense and/or as a change of pace. Not a fan of the QB sweep call. Like the RPO calls better. - Murray won't show up in the highlights, but his runs were important. - Kudos to Payton for calling the pooch kick from the 50. Have seen many just kick it out the endzone. - The NFL should never play another preseason game and they should keep the PS high to develop the players that may have made the team due to preseason games. *And the theme for Week One I'm reading is Sloppy Football; looking at statistics following rotoball, would reinforce that argument...*

09-14-2020, 10:14 AM	#32
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations 1. This is the last year we’ll have with Drew Brees. Enjoy it. Teams will continue to sit on the underneath routes and everything in front of them due to our inability to push the ball down the field. 2. If we’re going to run this West Coast offense we need to do a better job of creating and exploiting mismatches. Where are the Texas routes with Kamara and Montgomery? Smash combinations? Double slants? Indeed, playcalling is and has been atrocious. 3. Taysom Hill gives the offense so much more life. Everytime he touches the ball it feels like a big play waiting to happen. 4. The entire secondary was excellent. I could care less about those ticky-tack pass interference calls. We already know the refs love to throw flags on us. It is what it is. I was extremely impressed with the defense as a whole. 5. Dennis Allen? Big trash. saintsfan1976, gosaints1, K Major and 1 others like this.
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09-14-2020, 10:20 AM	#33
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by papz - That QB sweep with Taysom on 3rd and short was absolutely horrendous. - Love our DL. Love Cam. - I wish we had 3 Demario's. We couldn't afford 3 DeMario's under the salary cap and I thought Anzalone played great as Ellis only saw the field for a limited no. of snaps as we were in nickel, heavy nickel, and heavy dime most of the game...

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09-14-2020, 11:54 AM	#36
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by jeanpierre We couldn't afford 3 DeMario's under the salary cap and I thought Anzalone and Ellis played great... I'll need to re visit the replay. Didn't notice Ellis much. I was zoned in on that def front. David O, Cam, Trey and Roach were getting in.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by jeanpierre *And the theme for Week One I'm reading is Sloppy Football; looking at statistics following rotoball, would reinforce that argument...* The football can be sloppy in week eight. Match ups make it look that way every week of the season. It's a simple safety issue for me. Just not worth the injury risks. Losing a star, a starter, or even a key special teams player in games that don't count is a waste.
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09-14-2020, 12:31 PM	#39
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by papz - That QB sweep with Taysom on 3rd and short was absolutely horrendous. It's become too predictable. Payton and Carmichael need to develop an RPO package for Taysom when he's in the QB position. It would function as a triple option set where he could hand off the ball if the LB's take the receiver, throw the ball if the LB crashes the run, or take off himself. Defenses will continue to pack the LOS until Taysom breaks the tendency to run. Pop the ball over the front 7/8's head enough, and they'll have to back off. SFIAH rezburna and SaintGnome like this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations For plays where Taysom is the QB, we should emulate what the Patriots did with Cam yesterday. Nothing fancy, just technically sound option football and execution, set up high percentage passes with the double mobility factor in the backfield.