Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations

jeanpierre · 09-13-2020, 10:31 PM

Okay, just got through watching the game, sans commercials and BS politics, though Payton, ever the show(off)man, jumped in on the act at the end of the game...

Payton was right about one thing, he called an awful game; Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point...
I'd like to know why the star of training camp, P.J. Williams, wasn't active; talk about getting all you can out of Practice Squad Call Ups - Margus Hunt and Bennie Fowler were huge, should be active roster...
The Tampa Bay Bucs are young, and they're for real - but the PreSeason/Team Continuity was today, and will be a factor first half of the season - it was the real difference in the game...
Cam Jordan really got stuffed against the pass, but looked awesome vs the run...
Gonna suck we developed T-Rex and we won't be able to afford him; he had some real drive-killing plays; he'd had a second sack if not for an intentional grounding...
Know some are praising Jared Cook, but I gotta tell you, while stats says there were two drops, there were missed opportunities that would mean more in tighter games - need to get Trautman some live reps...
Defensive Big, and I mean Big Plays, minimized some of other errors; in football, defense is usually ahead of offense at this time, and both sides have gotta lot of cleaning up to do...
Was glad to see Payton use Latavius Murray to kill clock and let our big offensive linemen dispense some punishment on those defensive linemen; thought Nick Easton showed his value today...
We are not where we need to be on the offensive line; Covid, Injured Rookie Center, it's gonna be a big deal when the Pack comes to town and the schedule gets tougher vs Alpha Predators...
Lattimore does a great job to get in the heads of his opponents, but geezhus, he doesn't need to move in with them...
There were concerns of New LBer Coach Michael Hodges assuming duties from Mike Nolan, and while less than one year out, the transition looks seamless, and On that note,
Payton should have promoted Mike Nolan to DC; that BS Corner blitz, pulling a CB who effectively shut down Mike Evans is the kind of crap why Dennis Allen should've been relieved in the off-season...
Agree with comments re: DL Coach Ryan Nielsen, a signing I hyped; watching Roach make Rankins expendable, I'd go one step more, Nielsen needs to be in on Draft & Free Agent Prep, Evaluations...
One more coaches note, if the Specialist Unit has more games like today, Darren Rizzi will be one hot commodity; that was one of the best performances ever by a Saints ST unit, even with the circumstances...
Thought Patrick Robinson looked solid in relief on the boundary; Marcus Williams is underappreciated; still don't see why we signed Jenkins who looked slow compared to Vonn Bell last season...
Two player injuries to watch for this week - WRx Michael Thomas and WRs/RB Ty Montgomery...

TheOak · 09-14-2020, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Okay, just got through watching the game, sans commercials and BS politics, though Payton, ever the show(off)man, jumped in on the act at the end of the game...

Defensive Big, and I mean Big Plays, minimized some of other errors; in football, defense is usually ahead of offense at this time, and both sides have gotta lot of cleaning up to do...

Its the opposite mostly and depends on which aspect you are referring to. While it does take longer for offenses to gel internally, defense is reactionary and at the start of a season defenses do not have any tape to see tendencies or what changes an opponents offense makes in the off-season.

Rarely do defenses start a season strong and then get crappy unless there is injury, generally you see your stronger defenses emerge after week 3-4.

K Major · 09-14-2020, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Payton should have promoted Mike Nolan to DC; that BS Corner blitz, pulling a CB who effectively shut down Mike Evans is the kind of crap why Dennis Allen should've been relieved in the off-season...

Agree with comments re: DL Coach Ryan Nielsen, a signing I hyped; watching Roach make Rankins expendable, I'd go one step more, Nielsen needs to be in on Draft & Free Agent Prep, Evaluations...

Agreed on Dennis. I'm simply not a fan of his play calling.

As for Coach Nielsen .. that was a damn good hire. His D line has been stout his entire tenure in New Orleans. The Roach kid could become a dawg for us. I was extremely impressed with his performance on yesterday.

09-13-2020, 10:31 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Okay, just got through watching the game, sans commercials and BS politics, though Payton, ever the show(off)man, jumped in on the act at the end of the game... Payton was right about one thing, he called an awful game; Drew looked old, rusty; Taysom's 4th quarter throw really contrasted that point... I'd like to know why the star of training camp, P.J. Williams, wasn't active; talk about getting all you can out of Practice Squad Call Ups - Margus Hunt and Bennie Fowler were huge, should be active roster... The Tampa Bay Bucs are young, and they're for real - but the PreSeason/Team Continuity was today, and will be a factor first half of the season - it was the real difference in the game... Cam Jordan really got stuffed against the pass, but looked awesome vs the run... Gonna suck we developed T-Rex and we won't be able to afford him; he had some real drive-killing plays; he'd had a second sack if not for an intentional grounding... Know some are praising Jared Cook, but I gotta tell you, while stats says there were two drops, there were missed opportunities that would mean more in tighter games - need to get Trautman some live reps... Defensive Big, and I mean Big Plays, minimized some of other errors; in football, defense is usually ahead of offense at this time, and both sides have gotta lot of cleaning up to do... Was glad to see Payton use Latavius Murray to kill clock and let our big offensive linemen dispense some punishment on those defensive linemen; thought Nick Easton showed his value today... We are not where we need to be on the offensive line; Covid, Injured Rookie Center, it's gonna be a big deal when the Pack comes to town and the schedule gets tougher vs Alpha Predators... Lattimore does a great job to get in the heads of his opponents, but geezhus, he doesn't need to move in with them... There were concerns of New LBer Coach Michael Hodges assuming duties from Mike Nolan, and while less than one year out, the transition looks seamless, and On that note, Payton should have promoted Mike Nolan to DC; that BS Corner blitz, pulling a CB who effectively shut down Mike Evans is the kind of crap why Dennis Allen should've been relieved in the off-season... Agree with comments re: DL Coach Ryan Nielsen, a signing I hyped; watching Roach make Rankins expendable, I'd go one step more, Nielsen needs to be in on Draft & Free Agent Prep, Evaluations... One more coaches note, if the Specialist Unit has more games like today, Darren Rizzi will be one hot commodity; that was one of the best performances ever by a Saints ST unit, even with the circumstances... Thought Patrick Robinson looked solid in relief on the boundary; Marcus Williams is underappreciated; still don't see why we signed Jenkins who looked slow compared to Vonn Bell last season... Two player injuries to watch for this week - WRx Michael Thomas and WRs/RB Ty Montgomery... iceshack149, jnormand, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way... Last edited by jeanpierre; 09-13-2020 at 10:44 PM..

09-14-2020, 04:41 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by jeanpierre Okay, just got through watching the game, sans commercials and BS politics, though Payton, ever the show(off)man, jumped in on the act at the end of the game... Defensive Big, and I mean Big Plays, minimized some of other errors; in football, defense is usually ahead of offense at this time, and both sides have gotta lot of cleaning up to do... Its the opposite mostly and depends on which aspect you are referring to. While it does take longer for offenses to gel internally, defense is reactionary and at the start of a season defenses do not have any tape to see tendencies or what changes an opponents offense makes in the off-season. Rarely do defenses start a season strong and then get crappy unless there is injury, generally you see your stronger defenses emerge after week 3-4.

09-14-2020, 07:19 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Buccaneers Post-Game Observations Originally Posted by jeanpierre Payton should have promoted Mike Nolan to DC; that BS Corner blitz, pulling a CB who effectively shut down Mike Evans is the kind of crap why Dennis Allen should've been relieved in the off-season... Agree with comments re: DL Coach Ryan Nielsen, a signing I hyped; watching Roach make Rankins expendable, I'd go one step more, Nielsen needs to be in on Draft & Free Agent Prep, Evaluations... Agreed on Dennis. I'm simply not a fan of his play calling. As for Coach Nielsen .. that was a damn good hire. His D line has been stout his entire tenure in New Orleans. The Roach kid could become a dawg for us. I was extremely impressed with his performance on yesterday. leilung, WillMacKenzie, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.