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Flipx99 09-29-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 898533)
Those of you who don't car about football, why don't you just stay away? You lurk around waiting for something political to be posted before you come out from under your rock. Then all you do is complain about football now being political. The hypocrisy is real. All of you just want to argue.


I thought the goal was to "start a conversation?"

That's one of the more significant problems with the BLM movement. They don't want to hear your opinion.

What they want is to hear their opinion come out of your mouth.

I would much prefer that sports be a refuge from politics. IMO, it would be better for us all if that was the case.

But it's not, the athletes and now the leagues have gone all in. So, don't be surprised when people want to state opposing views where they can - in the case a message board. After all, the end zones and the courts are not open for all views.

AsylumGuido 09-29-2020 05:50 PM

Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Flipx99 (Post 898561)
I thought the goal was to "start a conversation?"

That's one of the more significant problems with the BLM movement. They don't want to hear your opinion.

What they want is to hear their opinion come out of your mouth.

I would much prefer that sports be a refuge from politics. IMO, it would be better for us all if that was the case.

But it's not, the athletes and now the leagues have gone all in. So, don't be surprised when people want to state opposing views where they can - in the case a message board. After all, the end zones and the courts are not open for all views.

:deadhorse2:

Rsanders24 09-29-2020 09:17 PM

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There is another area of the site that you can freely speak your mind on politics but when I click on the Saints area I want to see what people think about the on field. I don’t come here to see people say I didn’t watch the game because of the political nature of the players and the league but act like they actually care. Most only come here to start dissection.

Everyone that came to this site has or had one thing in common, love for this team regardless of political affiliation, race or creed.

I wish we could go back to that...

burningmetal 09-29-2020 09:41 PM

Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 898533)
Bahahahahaha. That's an opinion. We all have one and most stink. Those of you who don't car about football, why don't you just stay away? You lurk around waiting for something political to be posted before you come out from under your rock. Then all you do is complain about football now being political. The hypocrisy is real. All of you just want to argue.


Rez.....you're one of the most respectable people on this board. If being pro-American means being short-sighted and judgmental.....call me anti-American too, and piss on ya

What happened to you blocking me? Did you miss me?

I don't think you know what "hypocrisy" is. In order for e to be a hypocrite, my actions would have to my words. I'm not making sports political. The athletes have already done that. And when there is a discussion about that, sometimes I take part, sometimes I don't. If it's a topic that's relevant to me, I'm free to discuss as I wish. You can request the thread be moved to politics if it bothers you. That isn't my problem or my responsibility. This thread was about an article written about the Saints' destroying their team chemistry over politics. So if your little feelings can't take political discussion on this board, then you shouldn't have clicked on the thread after reading the headline. But you freely made the choice to enter.

Now, you'll just have to deal with it.

Speaking of being a hypocrite: "All of you just want to argue."... What do you think you're doing, pal? In reality, we were just discussing our opinions. When people like you show up, it becomes an argument. Because you're arguing. What's that saying? "It takes two to tango". If you don't like arguments then don't argue. Otherwise, you're a hypocrite.

And what I stated was more than an opinion. If you say patriotism is political, as if it's some divisive thing, then you're anti-American. Period. patriotism is about love of country. You don't have t love everything about your country. I certainly don't. But if you have a problem with patriotism, itself, then you hate your country. There's no grey in that area.

AsylumGuido 09-29-2020 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898577)
What happened to you blocking me? Did you miss me?

I don't think you know what "hypocrisy" is. In order for e to be a hypocrite, my actions would have to my words. I'm not making sports political. The athletes have already done that. And when there is a discussion about that, sometimes I take part, sometimes I don't. If it's a topic that's relevant to me, I'm free to discuss as I wish. You can request the thread be moved to politics if it bothers you. That isn't my problem or my responsibility. This thread was about an article written about the Saints' destroying their team chemistry over politics. So if your little feelings can't take political discussion on this board, then you shouldn't have clicked on the thread after reading the headline. But you freely made the choice to enter.

Now, you'll just have to deal with it.

Speaking of being a hypocrite: "All of you just want to argue."... What do you think you're doing, pal? In reality, we were just discussing our opinions. When people like you show up, it becomes an argument. Because you're arguing. What's that saying? "It takes two to tango". If you don't like arguments then don't argue. Otherwise, you're a hypocrite.

And what I stated was more than an opinion. If you say patriotism is political, as if it's some divisive thing, then you're anti-American. Period. patriotism is about love of country. You don't have t love everything about your country. I certainly don't. But if you have a problem with patriotism, itself, then you hate your country. There's no grey in that area.

:deadhorse2::deadhorse:

AsylumGuido 09-29-2020 09:57 PM

Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 898576)
There is another area of the site that you can freely speak your mind on politics but when I click on the Saints area I want to see what people think about the on field. I don’t come here to see people say I didn’t watch the game because of the political nature of the players and the league but act like they actually care. Most only come here to start dissection.

Everyone that came to this site has or had one thing in common, love for this team regardless of political affiliation, race or creed.

I wish we could go back to that...

Amen, amen, and amen.

burningmetal 09-29-2020 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 898581)
:deadhorse2::deadhorse:

You don't think the players are beating a dead horse, tough guy? Wait, I know, I know... "burning, as a professional horse trainer for 25 years, I know more about dead horses, and when one is being beaten, than you".

My fault for asking.

AsylumGuido 09-29-2020 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898584)
You don't think the players are beating a dead horse, tough guy? Wait, I know, I know... "burning, as a professional horse trainer for 25 years, I know more about dead horses, and when one is being beaten, than you".

My fault for asking.

*yawn*

Although, I did, in fact, work for two summers during college at Louisiana Downs.

LOL!!

burningmetal 09-29-2020 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 898585)
*yawn*

Although, I did, in fact, work for two summers during college at Louisiana Downs.

LOL!!

*yawn*

Of course you did. Let me know how your moon walk goes tomorrow.

AsylumGuido 09-29-2020 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898586)
*yawn*

Of course you did. Let me know how your moon walk goes tomorrow.

Yup. I worked in food service there actually for three summers. I forgot about that first year. Was only there for a month. I was a runner keeping the food stands stocked on the third floor the first year and changing out kegs. I was a floor walker (runner supervisor) on the third floor the next year and head floor walker year three. That final year (1980) was the first year of the Super Derby. Never came close to a horse then, but it was still interesting watching the people. Eddie Debartolo owned the track back then. He also owned the 49er's at the time. I now drive by that track all the time. Just about three miles up I-220 from our house. I saw an obituary from the man the ran the commissary (where all the food and beer was stocked) there in the Spring. He had to have been 90 when he died. I thought he was so old back then. LOL!

Sorry, but I never could moon walk. I've tried but can't get the moves down.

burningmetal 09-29-2020 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 898588)
Yup. I worked in food service there actually for three summers. I forgot about that first year. Was only there for a month. I was a runner keeping the food stands stocked on the third floor the first year and changing out kegs. I was a floor walker (runner supervisor) on the third floor the next year and head floor walker year three. That final year (1980) was the first year of the Super Derby. Never came close to a horse then, but it was still interesting watching the people. Eddie Debartolo owned the track back then. He also owned the 49er's at the time. I now drive by that track all the time. Just about three miles up I-220 from our house. I saw an obituary from the man the ran the commissary (where all the food and beer was stocked) there in the Spring. He had to have been 90 when he died. I thought he was so old back then. LOL!

Sorry, but I never could moon walk. I've tried but can't get the moves down.

You can do anything you imagine, 'Guido. I'm sure you'll figure it out.

AsylumGuido 09-29-2020 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898589)
You can do anything you imagine, 'Guido. I'm sure you'll figure it out.

I've been lucky to experience a lot in my first 63 years, burning. Hope to experience much more in the next 63. I have always looked to expand my horizons. I've been working since I was 16 at one thing or another.

burningmetal 09-29-2020 11:46 PM

Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 898590)
I've been lucky to experience a lot in my first 63 years, burning. Hope to experience much more in the next 63. I have always looked to expand my horizons. I've been working since I was 16 at one thing or another.

That's great, 'Guido, it really is. I'd tell you my life story, too, except that it wouldn't have anything to do with... anything. And I'm certain no one would care.

AsylumGuido 09-30-2020 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898591)
That's great, 'Guido, it really is. I'd tell you my life story, too, except that it wouldn't have anything to do with... anything. And I'm certain no one would care.

I'm sure no one would care to hear about your life. ;) Just kidding. I'm sure you had to have done something interesting at one point or another. Anyway, last night got me to want to dig through my old shirt collection for the "I Survived Super Derby I" t-shirt. We could probably make a few bucks off of it in the store. Thanks for reminding me!

:bng:

rezburna 09-30-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898591)
That's great, 'Guido, it really is. I'd tell you my life story, too, except that it wouldn't have anything to do with... anything. And I'm certain no one would care.

I’m interested. Please, oblige me.

saintfan 09-30-2020 08:44 AM

Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898584)
You don't think the players are beating a dead horse, tough guy? Wait, I know, I know... "burning, as a professional horse trainer for 25 years, I know more about dead horses, and when one is being beaten, than you".

My fault for asking.

Now that's just funny right there...

:banana: :banana: :banana:

burningmetal 09-30-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 898603)
I’m interested. Please, oblige me.

Thanks for your interest. But my life is not the subject matter of the thread, and I'm not seeking points for the interesting parts of my life history. Of course, if someone were genuinely curious to get to know me, for any reason, they are welcome to private message me at any time with a question. But I rather doubt that would happen, since people don't generally come to public forums to talk about each other's personal history.

44Champs 10-04-2020 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 898341)
The Saints killed their mojo this offseason when Malcolm Jenkins and Michael Thomas executed a Black Lives Matter-inspired assassination of Drew Brees’ character.



Brees has never been the most talented NFL QB. His intangibles, particularly his leadership, are what made him great. The guy’s reputation was impeccable.



He was the guy New Orleans and the Saints rallied around. Jenkins and Thomas ruined that when they publicly criticized Brees because Brees had the audacity to defend standing for the national anthem.



Brees is no longer the leader of the Saints, who fell to 1-2 Sunday night. He’s a player on the team. It’s a tragedy what Jenkins and Thomas did to Brees, the NFL’s modern-day Walter Payton.



If the Saints miss the playoffs, blame Jenkins, Thomas and the media race hustlers.



https://www.outkick.com/nfl-truths-r...ore-cardi-bee/

Fv*k Malcolm Jenkins. He sucked today vs Lions.

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iceshack149 10-05-2020 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 899124)
Fv*k Malcolm Jenkins. He sucked today vs Lions.

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He was one of the team captains today. I don’t understand. But I admit that I’m not woke.

jnormand 10-05-2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 899129)
He was one of the team captains today. I don’t understand. But I admit that I’m not woke.

That's okay. That just means you still have some common sense. Lol.

AsylumGuido 10-05-2020 06:32 AM

Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 899129)
He was one of the team captains today. I don’t understand. But I admit that I’m not woke.

He's been team captain on every team he has been on every year. Just a little FYI.

TheOak 10-05-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 898606)
Thanks for your interest. But my life is not the subject matter of the thread, and I'm not seeking points for the interesting parts of my life history. Of course, if someone were genuinely curious to get to know me, for any reason, they are welcome to private message me at any time with a question. But I rather doubt that would happen, since people don't generally come to public forums to talk about each other's personal history.

I don't underestimate the value of knowing more about the person I am talking to than I know about the subject matter. I find the personal understanding key to furthering conversations.

Example: I have friends that are died in wool Republicans as well as Democrats and come from generations of the same. I handle political discussions very differently with someone that is clinging to an idea rather than an ideal, I find chipping away at ideals to be counter productive and generally leads to an argument about something other than an isolated topic.

I have non-white friends that I can have very deep and raw racial discussions with because they know that I do not see race and have no agenda to push other than peace.

I know that some of our members played defensive secondary or were receivers and I give more credibility to their opinions than someone that has spent their whole life looking at stats. I know that recovering alcoholics generally have addictive personalities and will stick to something longer than most would, I have learned to walk away at a certain point so that I do not feed their needs.

I know SaintsFan's grandmother used to teach guitar and hounded him about wrist position on the fret hand. Now every time that I am playing I look down, and though I have never met his wonderful grandmother, she effects my play style.

Even if someone shows no interest, there are advantages to sharing for understanding. After all, most of us have been talking to each other for years now. :bng:

Budsdrinker 10-05-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 899141)
He's been team captain on every team he has been on every year. Just a little FYI.

Nope. Wasn't a team captain for the Saints until the suspension year 2012
which was his 4th year in the league and then he was co-captain with Harper.

AsylumGuido 10-05-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 899169)
Nope. Wasn't a team captain for the Saints until the suspension year 2012
which was his 4th year in the league and then he was co-captain with Harper.

This is true. I meant every year for every team since he was first voted captain.

Flipx99 10-05-2020 10:34 AM

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I liked MJ when he was here before, even during his on field struggles and adjustments. There will always be that play against Dallas when he snatched the ball away.

A have a friend who grew up in Philadelphia and he warned me that Jenkins would be more trouble than he is worth. Fast forward a couple of months and his prediction was spot on.


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