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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The Saints killed their mojo this offseason when Malcolm Jenkins and Michael Thomas executed a Black Lives Matter-inspired assassination of Drew Breesí character. Brees has never been the most talented NFL QB. His intangibles, particularly his leadership, are what made ...

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Old 09-28-2020, 09:28 AM   #1
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M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

The Saints killed their mojo this offseason when Malcolm Jenkins and Michael Thomas executed a Black Lives Matter-inspired assassination of Drew Breesí character.

Brees has never been the most talented NFL QB. His intangibles, particularly his leadership, are what made him great. The guyís reputation was impeccable.

He was the guy New Orleans and the Saints rallied around. Jenkins and Thomas ruined that when they publicly criticized Brees because Brees had the audacity to defend standing for the national anthem.

Brees is no longer the leader of the Saints, who fell to 1-2 Sunday night. Heís a player on the team. Itís a tragedy what Jenkins and Thomas did to Brees, the NFLís modern-day Walter Payton.

If the Saints miss the playoffs, blame Jenkins, Thomas and the media race hustlers.

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Old 09-28-2020, 10:25 AM   #2
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well.

Everyone has to do their job and do it better....including Brees.

What you just wrote is a cop-out.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:26 AM   #3
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

Malcom Jenkins sucks in a Saints jersey. Itís some kind of curse.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:31 AM   #4
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

Jason Whitlock is savage.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:43 AM   #5
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I see the crying will never stop.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:47 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 View Post
Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well.

Everyone has to do their job and do it better....including Brees.

What you just wrote is a cop-out.
Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in ďfloor is lavaĒ commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the teamís chemistry is unknown. It wouldnít be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the ďleaderĒ of the team. Leaderís prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards.

Itís my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints donít make the playoffs, if they donít. But Iím still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least.
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Old 09-28-2020, 11:12 AM   #7
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I don't know what happened behind the scenes - but I can say what I think should have happened.

When Drew started to receive threats against his family he should have met with Jenkins and Thomas, looked them in the eyes and told them we are supposed to be teammates. From one man to other men, you need to do whatever you can to fix this. This is my family we are talking about.

If they refused, I think he should have called it a career and walked away.
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Old 09-28-2020, 11:22 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Flipx99 View Post
I don't know what happened behind the scenes - but I can say what I think should have happened.

When Drew started to receive threats against his family he should have met with Jenkins and Thomas, looked them in the eyes and told them we are supposed to be teammates. From one man to other men, you need to do whatever you can to fix this. This is my family we are talking about.

If they refused, I think he should have called it a career and walked away.
Did I miss where either Thomas or Jenkins overtly threatened the family of Brees? And both Thomas and Jenkins have received death threats for their stance also. Brees isnít responsible for idiots threatening Thomas and Jenkins, nor are Thomas/Jenkins responsible for idiots threatening Brees.
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:21 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by gosaints1 View Post
Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in ďfloor is lavaĒ commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the teamís chemistry is unknown. It wouldnít be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the ďleaderĒ of the team. Leaderís prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards.

Itís my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints donít make the playoffs, if they donít. But Iím still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least.
If thatís the case I think Brees should have just retired if he let that be the end of it and he wouldnít have needed to fold, as some say he did.

If they let this trickle on the field and itís truly the reason why this team is struggling then there was never any true leadership on this team to start with.

Simply put, this team is not playing good football on either side of the ball. Part of it is coaching but most of it is just poor execution by the players.

Iím not sure that we are the best team in the NFC South. Right now I say we might be the second team but if Atlanta will be a problem for us because of how explosive they are, especially since we really donít have the ability to threaten defenses down the field.

As you said, 13 more games but if we donít see a major turnaround, I have a feeling this is going to be an ugly season.
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:27 PM   #10
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Did I miss where either Thomas or Jenkins overtly threatened the family of Brees?
You can tear that strawman down if you like. Makes no difference to me.
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