M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

Danno · 09-28-2020, 10:28 AM

The Saints killed their mojo this offseason when Malcolm Jenkins and Michael Thomas executed a Black Lives Matter-inspired assassination of Drew Brees’ character.

Brees has never been the most talented NFL QB. His intangibles, particularly his leadership, are what made him great. The guy’s reputation was impeccable.

He was the guy New Orleans and the Saints rallied around. Jenkins and Thomas ruined that when they publicly criticized Brees because Brees had the audacity to defend standing for the national anthem.

Brees is no longer the leader of the Saints, who fell to 1-2 Sunday night. He’s a player on the team. It’s a tragedy what Jenkins and Thomas did to Brees, the NFL’s modern-day Walter Payton.

If the Saints miss the playoffs, blame Jenkins, Thomas and the media race hustlers.

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Rsanders24 · 09-28-2020, 11:25 AM

Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well.

Everyone has to do their job and do it better....including Brees.

What you just wrote is a cop-out.

westbankdaze · 09-28-2020, 11:26 AM

Malcom Jenkins sucks in a Saints jersey. It’s some kind of curse.

turbo_dog · 09-28-2020, 11:31 AM

Jason Whitlock is savage.

shawnkytonk · 09-28-2020, 11:43 AM

I see the crying will never stop.

gosaints1 · 09-28-2020, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well.

Everyone has to do their job and do it better....including Brees.

What you just wrote is a cop-out.

Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in “floor is lava” commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the team’s chemistry is unknown. It wouldn’t be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the “leader” of the team. Leader’s prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards.

It’s my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints don’t make the playoffs, if they don’t. But I’m still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least.

Flipx99 · 09-28-2020, 12:12 PM

I don't know what happened behind the scenes - but I can say what I think should have happened.

When Drew started to receive threats against his family he should have met with Jenkins and Thomas, looked them in the eyes and told them we are supposed to be teammates. From one man to other men, you need to do whatever you can to fix this. This is my family we are talking about.

If they refused, I think he should have called it a career and walked away.

gosaints1 · 09-28-2020, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Flipx99

I don't know what happened behind the scenes - but I can say what I think should have happened.

When Drew started to receive threats against his family he should have met with Jenkins and Thomas, looked them in the eyes and told them we are supposed to be teammates. From one man to other men, you need to do whatever you can to fix this. This is my family we are talking about.

If they refused, I think he should have called it a career and walked away.

Did I miss where either Thomas or Jenkins overtly threatened the family of Brees? And both Thomas and Jenkins have received death threats for their stance also. Brees isn’t responsible for idiots threatening Thomas and Jenkins, nor are Thomas/Jenkins responsible for idiots threatening Brees.

Rsanders24 · 09-28-2020, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in “floor is lava” commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the team’s chemistry is unknown. It wouldn’t be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the “leader” of the team. Leader’s prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards.

It’s my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints don’t make the playoffs, if they don’t. But I’m still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least.

If that’s the case I think Brees should have just retired if he let that be the end of it and he wouldn’t have needed to fold, as some say he did.

If they let this trickle on the field and it’s truly the reason why this team is struggling then there was never any true leadership on this team to start with.

Simply put, this team is not playing good football on either side of the ball. Part of it is coaching but most of it is just poor execution by the players.

I’m not sure that we are the best team in the NFC South. Right now I say we might be the second team but if Atlanta will be a problem for us because of how explosive they are, especially since we really don’t have the ability to threaten defenses down the field.

As you said, 13 more games but if we don’t see a major turnaround, I have a feeling this is going to be an ugly season.

Flipx99 · 09-28-2020, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Did I miss where either Thomas or Jenkins overtly threatened the family of Brees?

You can tear that strawman down if you like. Makes no difference to me.

09-28-2020, 10:28 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints The Saints killed their mojo this offseason when Malcolm Jenkins and Michael Thomas executed a Black Lives Matter-inspired assassination of Drew Brees’ character. Brees has never been the most talented NFL QB. His intangibles, particularly his leadership, are what made him great. The guy’s reputation was impeccable. He was the guy New Orleans and the Saints rallied around. Jenkins and Thomas ruined that when they publicly criticized Brees because Brees had the audacity to defend standing for the national anthem. Brees is no longer the leader of the Saints, who fell to 1-2 Sunday night. He’s a player on the team. It’s a tragedy what Jenkins and Thomas did to Brees, the NFL’s modern-day Walter Payton. If the Saints miss the playoffs, blame Jenkins, Thomas and the media race hustlers. https://www.outkick.com/nfl-truths-r...ore-cardi-bee/ iceshack149, jnormand, Budsdrinker and 8 others like this.

09-28-2020, 11:25 AM	#2
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well. Everyone has to do their job and do it better....including Brees. What you just wrote is a cop-out. Saint in Aus and RefsRobbedUs like this.

09-28-2020, 11:26 AM	#3
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints Malcom Jenkins sucks in a Saints jersey. It’s some kind of curse. jnormand, Sainters7, jeanpierre and 3 others like this.
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09-28-2020, 11:47 AM	#6
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well. Everyone has to do their job and do it better....including Brees. What you just wrote is a cop-out. Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in “floor is lava” commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the team’s chemistry is unknown. It wouldn’t be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the “leader” of the team. Leader’s prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards. It’s my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints don’t make the playoffs, if they don’t. But I’m still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least. Danno likes this.
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09-28-2020, 12:12 PM	#7
Flipx99 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 153	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints I don't know what happened behind the scenes - but I can say what I think should have happened. When Drew started to receive threats against his family he should have met with Jenkins and Thomas, looked them in the eyes and told them we are supposed to be teammates. From one man to other men, you need to do whatever you can to fix this. This is my family we are talking about. If they refused, I think he should have called it a career and walked away. jnormand likes this.
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09-28-2020, 12:22 PM	#8
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints Originally Posted by Flipx99 I don't know what happened behind the scenes - but I can say what I think should have happened. When Drew started to receive threats against his family he should have met with Jenkins and Thomas, looked them in the eyes and told them we are supposed to be teammates. From one man to other men, you need to do whatever you can to fix this. This is my family we are talking about. If they refused, I think he should have called it a career and walked away. Did I miss where either Thomas or Jenkins overtly threatened the family of Brees? And both Thomas and Jenkins have received death threats for their stance also. Brees isn’t responsible for idiots threatening Thomas and Jenkins, nor are Thomas/Jenkins responsible for idiots threatening Brees. Rsanders24, Rueben Mayes and shawnkytonk like this.
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09-28-2020, 01:21 PM	#9
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints Originally Posted by gosaints1 Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in “floor is lava” commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the team’s chemistry is unknown. It wouldn’t be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the “leader” of the team. Leader’s prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards. It’s my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints don’t make the playoffs, if they don’t. But I’m still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least. If that’s the case I think Brees should have just retired if he let that be the end of it and he wouldn’t have needed to fold, as some say he did. If they let this trickle on the field and it’s truly the reason why this team is struggling then there was never any true leadership on this team to start with. Simply put, this team is not playing good football on either side of the ball. Part of it is coaching but most of it is just poor execution by the players. I’m not sure that we are the best team in the NFC South. Right now I say we might be the second team but if Atlanta will be a problem for us because of how explosive they are, especially since we really don’t have the ability to threaten defenses down the field. As you said, 13 more games but if we don’t see a major turnaround, I have a feeling this is going to be an ugly season. gosaints1 and Saint in Aus like this.

09-28-2020, 01:27 PM	#10
Flipx99 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 153	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints Originally Posted by gosaints1 Did I miss where either Thomas or Jenkins overtly threatened the family of Brees? You can tear that strawman down if you like. Makes no difference to me.
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