Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s

ScottyRo · 12-13-2020, 08:42 AM

Maybe the Payton era hasn’t had the same rate of failure against rookies, but if you’ve followed the team as long as some of us, there is good reason for this to come up.

I present to you the 1999 Cleveland Browns. The Browns themselves were rookies having just been reestablished after the prior Browns moved to Baltimore to become the Ravens. That year in NO, the Browns were starting rookie QB, Tim Couch, and they were on a 7 game losing streak to start the season. (Giving teams their first win of the year is more of a thing to me, but we’re talking rookies now.)

Of course, the Saints weren’t any better that year...the last under HC Mike Ditka, having won in Week 1 and then losing 7 or 8 straight. But, come on...we just needed a win and end up losing to the rookie Browns with a rookie QB in the Dome? If I recall correctly, we lost on a last second Hail Mary, of all things.

So, yeah, rookies!

Cruize · 12-13-2020, 11:11 AM

The Eagles OLine is horrible. They Eagles have no play makers. Hurts has never been good at reading defenses beyond his first option. Controlled pressure. Keep him in the pocket. If the Saints show up and don't turn the ball over, this game could resemble the Broncos game.

44Champs · 12-13-2020, 02:06 PM

Tim Couch

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Audiotom · 12-13-2020, 03:12 PM

Not the same but a qb that came alive against us

Derrick Carr looked terrible
Then played lights out in the Saints / Raiders game this year

dizzle88 · 12-13-2020, 07:33 PM

I barely saw Hurts throw the ball today. Their O line just destroyed our D.

I had a bad feeling the second that Hurts trucked Marcus Williams for a first down.

ChrisXVI · 12-13-2020, 08:10 PM

st thomas · 12-13-2020, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I barely saw Hurts throw the ball today. Their O line just destroyed our D.

I had a bad feeling the second that Hurts trucked Marcus Williams for a first down.

Mine was lutz wide right to get a lead 3-0

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Boston Saint · 12-15-2020, 05:05 PM

Is it safe now to wonder if maybe the Saints have Possibly had difficulties dealing with QBs that haven’t started a lot of games and/or are backups?

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Is it safe now to wonder if maybe the Saints have Possibly had difficulties dealing with QBs that haven’t started a lot of games and/or are backups?

Is it safe to say if you had rolled a single die 16 times and it came up with a three on four of those occurrences that when rolled a 17th time and a three appears that there is a possibility that it has a tendency to end up on three?

Or a flipped coin four times out of 16 is tails and the 17th a tail? Difficulty flipping heads all the sudden?

K Major · 12-16-2020, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm pretty sure Jalen Hurts won't light us up in his starting debut in Philly.

I'll be shocked if we have a let down defensively.

12-13-2020, 08:42 AM	#31
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s Maybe the Payton era hasn’t had the same rate of failure against rookies, but if you’ve followed the team as long as some of us, there is good reason for this to come up. I present to you the 1999 Cleveland Browns. The Browns themselves were rookies having just been reestablished after the prior Browns moved to Baltimore to become the Ravens. That year in NO, the Browns were starting rookie QB, Tim Couch, and they were on a 7 game losing streak to start the season. (Giving teams their first win of the year is more of a thing to me, but we’re talking rookies now.) Of course, the Saints weren’t any better that year...the last under HC Mike Ditka, having won in Week 1 and then losing 7 or 8 straight. But, come on...we just needed a win and end up losing to the rookie Browns with a rookie QB in the Dome? If I recall correctly, we lost on a last second Hail Mary, of all things. So, yeah, rookies!

12-13-2020, 11:11 AM	#32
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s The Eagles OLine is horrible. They Eagles have no play makers. Hurts has never been good at reading defenses beyond his first option. Controlled pressure. Keep him in the pocket. If the Saints show up and don't turn the ball over, this game could resemble the Broncos game.
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12-13-2020, 02:06 PM	#33
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12-13-2020, 03:12 PM	#34
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s Not the same but a qb that came alive against us Derrick Carr looked terrible Then played lights out in the Saints / Raiders game this year

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s Originally Posted by dizzle88 I barely saw Hurts throw the ball today. Their O line just destroyed our D. I had a bad feeling the second that Hurts trucked Marcus Williams for a first down. Mine was lutz wide right to get a lead 3-0 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk dizzle88 likes this.

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12-15-2020, 05:16 PM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s Originally Posted by Boston Saint Is it safe now to wonder if maybe the Saints have Possibly had difficulties dealing with QBs that haven’t started a lot of games and/or are backups? Is it safe to say if you had rolled a single die 16 times and it came up with a three on four of those occurrences that when rolled a 17th time and a three appears that there is a possibility that it has a tendency to end up on three? Or a flipped coin four times out of 16 is tails and the 17th a tail? Difficulty flipping heads all the sudden?

12-16-2020, 10:06 PM	#40
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s Originally Posted by K Major I'm pretty sure Jalen Hurts won't light us up in his starting debut in Philly. I'll be shocked if we have a let down defensively. jeanpierre likes this.