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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major If your definition of lighting us up is having a few key scrambles on broken plays, then you were wrong. Otherwise, he only managed the second fewest passing yards the Saints have surrendered all season....

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Old 12-17-2020, 07:46 AM   #1
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Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s

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If your definition of lighting us up is having a few key scrambles on broken plays, then you were wrong. Otherwise, he only managed the second fewest passing yards the Saints have surrendered all season.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:06 AM   #2
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If your definition of lighting us up is having a few key scrambles on broken plays, then you were wrong. Otherwise, he only managed the second fewest passing yards the Saints have surrendered all season.
It is difficult to tell if you are that myopic or if you think we are? That argument might fly on other boards but not here buddy lol.

QBs have feet to go along with the arm and that one ran for 106 yards averaging 5.8 YPC, threw 30 passes without a single interception, and was never sacked.

For a rookie QB against a "top defense" that is lights out football. No mistakes against a seasoned defense is all it takes to win in most cases.
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Old 12-17-2020, 11:35 AM   #3
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It is difficult to tell if you are that myopic or if you think we are? That argument might fly on other boards but not here buddy lol.

QBs have feet to go along with the arm and that one ran for 106 yards averaging 5.8 YPC, threw 30 passes without a single interception, and was never sacked.

For a rookie QB against a "top defense" that is lights out football. No mistakes against a seasoned defense is all it takes to win in most cases.
If our offense wasn't so anemic we could have won the game easily and Hurts' running would have simply been a side note. His passing attack was pedestrian, managing only a 83.6 rating. For comparison, Hill had a 102.0 rating. Hurts' "bad throw" rate was 23.1% (Hill's was 18.9%). His completed air yards per attempt was a miniscule 1.6 yards. However, they did have 120 yards after catch. We had only 113 on eleven more completions. Those numbers are not indicative of having "lit someone up".

Our playing from behind the entire game put a ton of pressure on the defense. It created over-pursuit (we blitzed 12 times!) which resulted in those big plays on the ground. 40% of Hurts' rushing yards came on four scrambles. He had 14 other carries for the remainder.

By the way, Miles Sanders had over 71% of his 115 yards on one play. He only averaged 2.4 YPC on the other 13.

Hill's (and Payton's) inability to generate any offense in the first half is what allowed the Eagles' ground game to shred our tiring defense early on. Mistakes just compounded the problem. A few big plays, a bad interception, a bad fumble, and two missed FG's is what lit us up.

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Old 12-10-2020, 03:19 PM   #4
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How about we agree that rookie QB's have historically given us a hard time?
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Old 12-13-2020, 07:42 AM   #5
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Maybe the Payton era hasn’t had the same rate of failure against rookies, but if you’ve followed the team as long as some of us, there is good reason for this to come up.

I present to you the 1999 Cleveland Browns. The Browns themselves were rookies having just been reestablished after the prior Browns moved to Baltimore to become the Ravens. That year in NO, the Browns were starting rookie QB, Tim Couch, and they were on a 7 game losing streak to start the season. (Giving teams their first win of the year is more of a thing to me, but we’re talking rookies now.)

Of course, the Saints weren’t any better that year...the last under HC Mike Ditka, having won in Week 1 and then losing 7 or 8 straight. But, come on...we just needed a win and end up losing to the rookie Browns with a rookie QB in the Dome? If I recall correctly, we lost on a last second Hail Mary, of all things.

So, yeah, rookies!
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The Eagles OLine is horrible. They Eagles have no play makers. Hurts has never been good at reading defenses beyond his first option. Controlled pressure. Keep him in the pocket. If the Saints show up and don't turn the ball over, this game could resemble the Broncos game.
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Old 12-13-2020, 02:12 PM   #8
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Not the same but a qb that came alive against us

Derrick Carr looked terrible
Then played lights out in the Saints / Raiders game this year
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I barely saw Hurts throw the ball today. Their O line just destroyed our D.

I had a bad feeling the second that Hurts trucked Marcus Williams for a first down.
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Old 12-13-2020, 07:45 PM   #10
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I barely saw Hurts throw the ball today. Their O line just destroyed our D.

I had a bad feeling the second that Hurts trucked Marcus Williams for a first down.

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