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Boston Saint 12-15-2020 04:17 PM

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Ok, but discarding Hurts, don’t you think that my point about the success of the QBs I listed, along with Murray, mayfield, and others leans validity to the idea of the traditional, immobile, pocket passer being more a relic?

Boston Saint 12-15-2020 04:19 PM

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Oh yeah, I forgot a guy named Mahomes in that list.

AsylumGuido 12-15-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 907453)
Ok, but discarding Hurts, don’t you think that my point about the success of the QBs I listed, along with Murray, mayfield, and others leans validity to the idea of the traditional, immobile, pocket passer being more a relic?

You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future.

Boston Saint 12-15-2020 04:41 PM

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Andrew Luck

Boston Saint 12-15-2020 04:43 PM

Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer?
 
Dan Marino, Dan Faust, Jim Kelly, Warren moon.

Rsanders24 12-15-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 907455)
You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future.

Change is it inevitable. Big difference between a mobile QB and a running QB. Now days the QB has to be mobile. Look at the QBs that are having success now...Wilson, Rodgers, Pat Homes, J Allen. Even Big Ben was mobile until injuries slowed him down. It’s just the evolution of the game.

Even in college FB they are looking for mobile QBs. None of the top QBs are pocket only QBs.

AsylumGuido 12-15-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 907457)
Andrew Luck

Immobile pocket passer, right? Won as many championships as the ones you named other than Mahomes who has cut back on his scrambling. He's is an outlier anyway because of his conservative nature. Even with him longevity can be an issue.

Boston Saint 12-15-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 907455)
You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future.

I just named a good 5 starting QBs that aren’t pocket passers including starters for many of the Super Bowl favorites and you want longevity ? Take away Rothlesburger Brees, and Brady ( all relics) and there aren’t any teams (Goff maybe) that are going with traditional pocket passers as their future.

AsylumGuido 12-15-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 907458)
Dan Marino, Dan Faust, Jim Kelly, Warren moon.

Don't get your point there. Awesome QB's. Extremely successful. What am I missing, Boston?

AsylumGuido 12-15-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 907461)
I just named a good 5 starting QBs that aren’t pocket passers including starters for many of the Super Bowl favorites and you want longevity ? Take away Rothlesburger Brees, and Brady ( all relics) and there aren’t any teams (Goff maybe) that are going with traditional pocket passers as their future.

And how many are going to be a future? That is yet to be seen. A short run? Yeah. I can see that. Today is a throwaway society. Why not do the same with QB's, I suppose. NFL dynasties have been built on long lasting QB's. That may be over.


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