Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees

TheOak · 12-17-2020, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I want us to draft a QB.

I know it might take an investment, but if they spent what they did on Davenport then it makes sense for a future leader at QB too.

Have you considered the consequences of drafting a starter?

If you don't draft a starter you are only adding more uncertainty to the pile; if you draft a starter you are going to have to give away the future to move up into the draft high enough to get that guy, because we certainly aren't moving up in the draft through losing.

ChrisXVI · 12-17-2020, 07:51 AM

So does that mean we’re going to re-sign Winston because he’s on a one year deal? Is he going to take the same small contract?

TheOak · 12-17-2020, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

So does that mean we’re going to re-sign Winston because he’s on a one year deal? Is he going to take the same small contract?

Honestly I think we roll into 2021 with the same exact setup and hope for someone to rise above the others. May draft a 4th to add to the mix but otherwise, pobably, yes.

gosaints1 · 12-17-2020, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

So does that mean we’re going to re-sign Winston because he’s on a one year deal? Is he going to take the same small contract?

That article does make it sound like the Saints are planning/hoping on keeping Winston around after this one year contract. But I’m not believing that he’ll accept a benchwarmer seat, basically another year without a legitimate starting possibility, doubly so with that tiny contract.

My guess is he wants to play. My guess is that there are other teams who will pay him much more money AND give him a chance at starting.

If DB#9 is around in 2021, and I believe he will be, and if TH#7 is around, and I also believe he will be, then Winston has to move on to greener pastures. Assuming that teams will want him, and imho, the longer you don’t have gameday tape, the longer you’re not in the serious conversation for a starting QB’s job. He’s in his prime, he’s no longer a rookie, which means the clock is ticking on his career.

iceshack149 · 12-17-2020, 11:58 AM

I actually want to see Jameis play this weekend.

Rugby Saint II · 12-17-2020, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I actually want to see Jameis play this weekend.

Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

iceshack149 · 12-17-2020, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

Here's hoping...!

AsylumGuido · 12-17-2020, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Here's hoping...!

If Winston plays it will be because the starter is either injured or failing miserably. That's why I am hoping to hell he doesn't play a snap.

dizzle88 · 12-17-2020, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Have you considered the consequences of drafting a starter?

If you don't draft a starter you are only adding more uncertainty to the pile; if you draft a starter you are going to have to give away the future to move up into the draft high enough to get that guy, because we certainly aren't moving up in the draft through losing.

Oh yeah I understand the potential consequences, but I stand by my initial thoughts, if they spent what they did on Davenport because they believed in him, then the same investment may need to be made for a future leader, if they rate someone that highly

Boston Saint · 12-17-2020, 01:21 PM

I’m not disagreeing with you saintsfan. But, Why do you think that is true about Winston? He is Still young. Former no 1 pick. Threw for 5000 yards. Never had a season with more Ints than TDs. Convince me why Winston can’t be successful .

12-17-2020, 06:07 AM	#11
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees Originally Posted by dizzle88 I want us to draft a QB. I know it might take an investment, but if they spent what they did on Davenport then it makes sense for a future leader at QB too. Have you considered the consequences of drafting a starter? If you don't draft a starter you are only adding more uncertainty to the pile; if you draft a starter you are going to have to give away the future to move up into the draft high enough to get that guy, because we certainly aren't moving up in the draft through losing.

12-17-2020, 07:51 AM	#12
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees So does that mean we’re going to re-sign Winston because he’s on a one year deal? Is he going to take the same small contract? gosaints1 likes this.

12-17-2020, 08:08 AM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees Originally Posted by ChrisXVI So does that mean we’re going to re-sign Winston because he’s on a one year deal? Is he going to take the same small contract? Honestly I think we roll into 2021 with the same exact setup and hope for someone to rise above the others. May draft a 4th to add to the mix but otherwise, pobably, yes.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees Originally Posted by ChrisXVI So does that mean we’re going to re-sign Winston because he’s on a one year deal? Is he going to take the same small contract? That article does make it sound like the Saints are planning/hoping on keeping Winston around after this one year contract. But I’m not believing that he’ll accept a benchwarmer seat, basically another year without a legitimate starting possibility, doubly so with that tiny contract. My guess is he wants to play. My guess is that there are other teams who will pay him much more money AND give him a chance at starting. If DB#9 is around in 2021, and I believe he will be, and if TH#7 is around, and I also believe he will be, then Winston has to move on to greener pastures. Assuming that teams will want him, and imho, the longer you don’t have gameday tape, the longer you’re not in the serious conversation for a starting QB’s job. He’s in his prime, he’s no longer a rookie, which means the clock is ticking on his career. SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido and K Major like this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees Originally Posted by iceshack149 I actually want to see Jameis play this weekend. Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it. AsylumGuido likes this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,238 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it. Here's hoping...! Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it. Originally Posted by iceshack149 Here's hoping...! If Winston plays it will be because the starter is either injured or failing miserably. That's why I am hoping to hell he doesn't play a snap.

12-17-2020, 01:16 PM	#19
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees Originally Posted by TheOak Have you considered the consequences of drafting a starter? If you don't draft a starter you are only adding more uncertainty to the pile; if you draft a starter you are going to have to give away the future to move up into the draft high enough to get that guy, because we certainly aren't moving up in the draft through losing. Oh yeah I understand the potential consequences, but I stand by my initial thoughts, if they spent what they did on Davenport because they believed in him, then the same investment may need to be made for a future leader, if they rate someone that highly

12-17-2020, 01:21 PM	#20
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Sean Payton: Jameis Winston will have opportunity to win starting job post-Drew Brees I’m not disagreeing with you saintsfan. But, Why do you think that is true about Winston? He is Still young. Former no 1 pick. Threw for 5000 yards. Never had a season with more Ints than TDs. Convince me why Winston can’t be successful . Sainters7 likes this.