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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by gosaints1 No, they shouldn’t. Critical analysis, unbiased and unemotional =/= toxicity. Therein lies the issue....

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Old 04-13-2021, 12:19 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by gosaints1 View Post
No, they shouldn’t. Critical analysis, unbiased and unemotional =/= toxicity.
Therein lies the issue.
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Therein lies the issue.
It's only emotional for you...
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It's only emotional for you...
Not so. I am realistic. I recognize the FACT that we have enjoyed the greatest era of Saints football because of what Payton and Loomis have accomplished. Your clear distaste for them both seems almost personal in nature (ie. emotional).
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Not so. I am realistic. I recognize the FACT that we have enjoyed the greatest era of Saints football because of what Payton and Loomis have accomplished. Your clear distaste for them both seems almost personal in nature (ie. emotional).
You have a distaste for any criticism of Payton, Loomis; you spin it personal as it's only personal for you...
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You have a distaste for any criticism of Payton, Loomis; you spin it personal as it's only personal for you...
Not true. If the criticism is warranted I have no problem. We simply have a differing viewpoint of when and what is warranted. In certain areas their philosophy differs from yours. In certain areas your philosophies differ from mine. That doesn't make any of us wrong. It means we favor different approaches.
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Not true. If the criticism is warranted I have no problem. We simply have a differing viewpoint of when and what is warranted. In certain areas their philosophy differs from yours. In certain areas your philosophies differ from mine. That doesn't make any of us wrong. It means we favor different approaches.
Name instances you've criticized Payton, Loomis - we'll wait...
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Name instances you've criticized Payton, Loomis - we'll wait...
I don't rush to Black & Gold to do so. It's not my MO to critic every play or decision. Have I ever disagreed with a decision here or there? Hell, yeah. But I don't make it my life's purpose to broadcast those few times.
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You have a distaste for any criticism of Payton, Loomis; you spin it personal as it's only personal for you...
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Not true. If the criticism is warranted I have no problem. We simply have a differing viewpoint of when and what is warranted. In certain areas their philosophy differs from yours. In certain areas your philosophies differ from mine. That doesn't make any of us wrong. It means we favor different approaches.
You're unable to name instances where criticism of the Payton-Loomis Management team was warranted? They've done it all perfectly all this time?
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You're unable to name instances where criticism of the Payton-Loomis Management team was warranted? They've done it all perfectly all this time?
Nothing anymore than any other GM or coach. Maybe a timeout being called or not here or there. I'm certainly not going to criticize them for draft picks given the extremely inexact science of its nature. I'm not going to criticize them for contract structures as a whole, nor moving up or down in a draft because I believe they know what they are doing FAR more than any of us.

There's not a single coach or GM in the league that is perfect all the time. I expect imperfection so I usually see no reason to dwell on individual instances. I'd rather sit back and enjoy since none of us have any control whatsoever.

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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