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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintswhodi You take that crap to the technology forum. This is for debate, not information gathering. :P :P :P The proper way to gain that info in this thread is: I bet I am the best on ...

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Old 06-06-2006, 06:40 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
You take that crap to the technology forum. This is for debate, not information gathering. :P :P :P

The proper way to gain that info in this thread is:

I bet I am the best on here at posting pics and avs. Somebody tell me how they do it, and i'll tell you my way that's better.


NOW THAT MADE ME LAUGH FOR REAL, LOL.... MAN THATS GOOD STUFF
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:44 PM   #22
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http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/index.asp
breaks down some good stats.
check it out
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Old 06-06-2006, 07:04 PM   #23
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Good stats. Donte tied for 15th in the LEAGUE in receiving TDs. Tied for 15th in catches over 25 yards. On a 3-13 team, with a bum QB, and no #1 WR.
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Old 06-06-2006, 07:46 PM   #24
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you said it not me. no #1 WR.
That was his job. lol
look up drops and such. he ranks higher in the nfl in those stats. come on look do not be scared
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:46 PM   #25
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Um, Donte isn't a #1 receiver yet. You'd probably stop being disappointed if you realized that. Second, you know who else is right there with Donte in drops? Plax Burress, Muhsin Muhammed, Chad Johnson, Antonio Gates, Eddie Kennison. Pretty good company to be in. Thanks again, although I already knew that. Receivers drop passes, but receivers who's teams' city was destroyed by a hurricane, playe don the road for 16 games, and had a bum for a QB, will prob drop a lot. What's these other guys' excuses? Strike two. You got one more chance to get Donte out. :P
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:10 PM   #26
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psst...play the consistency card...You know, the one that shows in his ENTIRE CAREER, he has never ever had back to back games where he has had 60 yards or more receiving. You cant blame the hurricane for that. You cant blame all of that on AB. You cant blame all of that on coaching. The blame has to go somewhere. I think Donte has to take some of that.
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:52 PM   #27
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Psst, trump that with the inconsistent QB and coaching staff argument. Sprinkle in a myriad of injuries his first two years. Make the table fold with the fact he has been playing opposite a #1 receiver who got 90# of the QBs attention. Strike 3, Donte stays.
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Old 06-06-2006, 11:11 PM   #28
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I keep saying this....Donte is a good #2. I didn't expect Donte to play like a #1 reciever because I don't think he is a #1 reciever yet. I do think he has it in him to become that good, but he isn't there yet.

What is with the Donte Stallworth haters lately?
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:44 AM   #29
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LOL playing the poor poor pittiful me card are we.
Donte was the #1 WR last year like it or not. A drop ball is a catch able ball thats all. Now go one step further and look at total catches and yardage numbers for the other WRs in that group.
NFL Leaders in Passes Dropped Catches Yards Ave TD YAC >25
1 LaMont Jordan Oak 12
2t Plaxico Burress NYG 11 76 1214 16.0 7 321 10
2t Muhsin Muhammad Chi 11 64 750 11.7 4 NA
2t Donte' Stallworth NO 11 70 945 13.5 7 NA 9
5 Eddie Kennison KC 10 16 322 20.1 0 374 11
6t Antonio Gates SD 9 89 1101 12.4 10 431 6
6t Chad Johnson Cin 9 97 1432 14.8 9 336 12

Musin is the only one that played to the same level as Donte. The rest were more productive. Look I do not dislike Donte I think he is over paid and an underachiever. If the hype is dropped along with his pay sure he can stay. If donte had to compete with the patriots WR group he would have been on the bench here to. sitting as a #4 WR. All three Deion Branch, David Givens, Troy Brown would be ahead of him and would be competing with Patrick Pass for playing time. AB by no means is Brady but that has nothing to do with a drop pass. Drops are pass that should have been caught. So that is why I feel and still do that Bethel Johnson is the same type of WR. Bill Belichick would have sat Donte on the bech to keep the seat warm for the other WR that can catch. Just as he did to Bethel.
There is no need to go into previous years because this is the best he has ever done for us. in 4 years. Why bring up the past which we know is even worse. I am given him a chance.
by the way NA means he is not listed in the top 20 even in the NFC much less the NFL. At best he should be our #3 WR not #2. Joe is and was a #2 at best. Butr with the roster the way it is so be it. I wanted Chad Jackson at 32. I thought he was more important than D'Qwell Jackson to the team.
Now YAC yard after catch I will give you has alot to with the QB.

So my friend the trump is spades not hearts. or did you run out of them? :P
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Was that even an argument? Yikes. Talk about easy pickings. Guess what Muhsin, who you would prob say is better than Donte, and IS a #1 receiver, had in common with Donte? A garbage QB. See how that works? Muhsin goes from Jake Delhomme, where Muhsin was a pro-bowler, to Kyle Orton, where he is among the league leaders in drops and has stats equivalent to a #2 receiver. Too easy.

Second, guess what, "catchable ball" is a WHOLLY SUBJECTIVE STAT. It's up to the stat keeper what is defined as a catchable ball and what isn't. Basing your argument on a subjective stat is a sure way to lose. Let me kill the rest of this BS:

2t Plaxico Burress: Would you take Eli Manning over AB?
5 Eddie Kennison: Would you take Trent Green over AB?
6t Antonio Gates: Um, we already chose Brees over AB
6t Chad Johnson: Would you take Carson Palmer over AB?

Um, hell yes on all accounts. And then it gets easier. How do you have any idea what Donte would have done with the Pats with an actual awesome QB? You have no idea yet you keep saying it as fact. Please discern the difference between your opinion, and a fact. It may help. Now, take the fact that EVERY one of those receivers had a better QB than Donte, and throw in the fact this team was pretty much blown up by Katrina=you lose again. I didn't know there could be 4 strikes in the same at bat. Wow. That's pretty bad. :P
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