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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Ok, Ware isn't going anywhere, no pun intended. I was thinking a reasonable trade idea. Unless they want to trade straight out? Then heck yeah....

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Old 04-14-2010, 11:25 PM   #11
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Ok, Ware isn't going anywhere, no pun intended. I was thinking a reasonable trade idea. Unless they want to trade straight out? Then heck yeah.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:26 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 View Post
Ok, Ware isn't going anywhere, no pun intended. I was thinking a reasonable trade idea. Unless they want to trade straight out? Then heck yeah.
Hey. You asked. lol
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Re: Jammal Brown to the Cowboys???

Ok how about that other LB..cant call his name
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Here ya go

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Ok how about that other LB..cant call his name
Anthony Spencer? Or is he a defensive end?
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Yeah thats him...i guess he is..but i would take him...lol
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Re: Jammal Brown to the Cowboys???

i'm absolutely ok without him.

i got so tired of hearing "false start, #70, 5 yard penalty...repeat (#) down" or the same with holding...he just seemed like a penalty machine to me. rock on bushrod!
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Old 04-15-2010, 01:44 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
Guys, Brown is coming off a season-long injury in which his team played better when he wasn't there. Doesn't exactly scream first-round draft pick to me.
the team was better....because of balance, aggression, and a few crucial pieces added

but the LT position was not better......in fact.....if was significantly worse and if we were to drop brown off for any pick, LT would immediately leap frog into the first or 2nd biggest need for this team

The national media ragged on Bushrod a lot last year because he had a couple of bad games, but point is, the Saints gave up very few sacks and Bushrod actually did pretty well. He's not an elite tackle, but definitely a good one.
in fact.....we threw the 10th most passes in the league in '09.....bushrod gave up 8 sacks and had significant amounts of help

in '08......we threw the ball 635 times.......brown gave up 3 sacks with very minimal help

brown gave up a sack once every 212 drop backs....

bushrod gave up a sack every 64 drop backs......

see the difference?

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Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
the team was better....because of balance, aggression, and a few crucial pieces added

but the LT position was not better......in fact.....if was significantly worse and if we were to drop brown off for any pick, LT would immediately leap frog into the first or 2nd biggest need for this team



in fact.....we threw the 10th most passes in the league in '09.....bushrod gave up 8 sacks and had significant amounts of help

in '08......we threw the ball 635 times.......brown gave up 3 sacks with very minimal help

brown gave up a sack once every 212 drop backs....

bushrod gave up a sack every 64 drop backs......

see the difference?

I know you're down on Bushrod but how uch do you think could be accredited to it being his first season as a starter and do you see rome for improvement?

From watching him this season I feel he has the physical tools to do it. I lik ehim in runblocking but he needs to improve his footwork and "sit down" more when passblocking, IMHO.

What I mean is trading Brown if Bushrod doesn't get better would be unwise but with the coaches we have i expect him to improve.
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I know you're down on Bushrod but how uch do you think could be accredited to it being his first season as a starter and do you see rome for improvement?

From watching him this season I feel he has the physical tools to do it. I lik ehim in runblocking but he needs to improve his footwork and "sit down" more when passblocking, IMHO.

What I mean is trading Brown if Bushrod doesn't get better would be unwise but with the coaches we have i expect him to improve.
do i hope he can improve...yes......do i think he can improve?......i dont know

hes been in the league for 3 years and has done a lot of nothing....he has disappointed sean payton and its very publicized that payton was down on bushrod

IMO bushrods biggest weakness is his drop step

he drops back way too far when he pass blocks and stands up too straight when makin up for the ground he covered

the DEs are allowed too much room for movement before he initiates contact and like you said, he needs to sit a little more and not play so freaking high

im down on him because of his pass blocking.....although ive seen him blow a few assignments while run blocking

the difference with run blocking is that he can initiate contact immediately and can use his size and power to overwhelm defenders

the problem with him is when he drop steps he cant recover and that is usually only in pass blocking situations

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