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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think I've made my position, as clear as I can. "I" believe,and if you don't that's fine, that's what's called difference of opinion, that Bush is by far THE MOST OVERRATED RB, in the NFL. Since the end of ...

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Old 05-25-2010, 06:40 PM   #71
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I think I've made my position, as clear as I can. "I" believe,and if you don't that's fine, that's what's called difference of opinion, that Bush is by far THE MOST OVERRATED RB, in the NFL. Since the end of 06, every year, is SUPPOSED to be his "breakout year", and I haven't seen it. Was he a piece to the puzzle, of our superbowl run, yes. Was he the reason WHY we got there, and won? NO. He is just another player, on a great team. Like I said before, if he is going to be a star RB, then star RBs, in my opinion, should have at least ONE thousand yard season under his belt, in four years. And not all purpose, ON THE GROUND. He hasn't caught even a whiff of a pro bowl, and yet he's the second most sponsored NFL player, behind only Peyton Manning. Now that I find, completely ludicrous. He's a Saint? Great. I'm glad he is, and yes, he has impressed me on occasions, with his athleticism, but that's it. I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he's what alot of people make him out to be. Decoy, schmecoy, if your going to make claims that you are an elite player, then back it up. If not, then be a role player, which is exactly what he is. Nothing more.

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well you do have nice knockers, I have to give you credit.
eh hem...those are called "Fun Bags" I've learned recently.
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well you do have nice knockers, I have to give you credit.
Heh heh heh.... Like those huh? And those babies are real!!!

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"Reggie Bush can run the ball..."

I have a story behind that, but it is just too stupid even for me...
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic View Post
I've re-read what I posted, quoted about half a dozen times..... not only are you paraphrasing, or chopping a small snippet of my whole, large argument out, but even still.... it just reiterates my point you questioned in the first place:

"..... I complained that it makes no sense that the majority of posters were getting vocal and opinionated about Sharper wanting "too much" money along with what "they" thought was too much. I found it hypocritical (at the least) that all of the concerns for money vs. value when Reggie is set to be the highest paid RB in the NFL. And I questioned, would resigning Sharper be such a big deal if Reggie wasn't such a hit on the wallet?"

My point was PLAIN AND SIMPLE, I couldn't stand hearing all the B&G knowledgeable.... popping up with their concerns for how much money the (int leading, HOF headed, pro-bowl) safety Sharper was seeking meanwhile the very same vocal people are and were deliberately disconcerned with the fact that Reggie Bush (proven limited) was set to be the highest paid RB and even highest paid Saint.

I ASSURE YOU, If I thought that Reggie's salary was an final hindrance to Sharper getting resigned.... I would have come right out and said it. Do I not seem direct enough to you? My point was with unnecessary vocal concerns for money for one guy, but blatant lack of concern for the next guys.... you know that! But thanks for reading my post anyways
I wasn't paraphrasing anything to make a point. You asked if you had made that statement, thereby implying you hadn't. I just pointed out that you did. That is about as simple as it gets. And whatever your original point was you tried to prove it by saying Reggie's contract had an impact on us signing Sharper. Not only was there no evidence to support this, there was actually evidence to disprove it.

If some people here made comments about what Sharper was or wasn't worth it was because of one main reason....he wasn't under contract and was seeking to sign a deal. With his statements about not feeling the love and wanting a franchise tag he opened himself to debate about what he was worth. Apparently most of the other teams in the NFL agreed with the Saints as he re-signed with us for far less than the franchise tag offer amount he was seeking.

This is in contrast to two other players from last year. Grant and Bush. Both were still under contract at the end of the season. This was very different from Sharper's situation. The FO decided that Grant was not worth what he was scheduled to make. He was therefore released. The FO decided Bush was worth what he was scheduled to make. So, they decided to retain him for next season.

If you disagree with this decision that's fine. It's a valid opinion. But to act like it is blatantly obvious that he is making too much money and that anyone who does not agree with this is blind is amazingly arrogant. It is basically saying that your opinion is better than that of other fans here and it is better than the people making the personnel decisions for the Saints (the people who decided to pay him the money this year and lead us to the SB last year). If you really believe this, then I urge you to apply for a job in the NFL. I know the Raiders could use your help.

It's been said before, but Bush's salary was pretty much determined by his draft position. So harping on his money is a moot point. A better question regarding him is weather he should have been drafted where he was; not is he making too much. For all who want to say it was a terrible pick, just remember that there are recent picks out there that have been much worse (the two QBs picked by the Bay Area California teams come to mind quickly.)

As far as PT goes, because the thread title is about him I will mention his name and that I am very glad that he was on the team last year and I hope he is on the team for a long time.
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I would also like to say, in my opinion of course, that Brees is the face of the Saints, as he should be. Someone needs to notice that Brees is a freak of a football player, and get him some endorsement deals. Bush is still cashing in on his college days, that have been over for some time now.
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I would also like to say, in my opinion of course, that Brees is the face of the Saints, as he should be. Someone needs to notice that Brees is a freak of a football player, and get him some endorsement deals. Bush is still cashing in on his college days, that have been over for some time now.
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well you do have nice knockers, I have to give you credit.
lmao, ya hang them in front of reggie, he'll get that 1000 yard season.
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Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL View Post
I wasn't paraphrasing anything to make a point. You asked if you had made that statement, thereby implying you hadn't. I just pointed out that you did. That is about as simple as it gets. And whatever your original point was you tried to prove it by saying Reggie's contract had an impact on us signing Sharper. Not only was there no evidence to support this, there was actually evidence to disprove it.

If some people here made comments about what Sharper was or wasn't worth it was because of one main reason....he wasn't under contract and was seeking to sign a deal. With his statements about not feeling the love and wanting a franchise tag he opened himself to debate about what he was worth. Apparently most of the other teams in the NFL agreed with the Saints as he re-signed with us for far less than the franchise tag offer amount he was seeking.

This is in contrast to two other players from last year. Grant and Bush. Both were still under contract at the end of the season. This was very different from Sharper's situation. The FO decided that Grant was not worth what he was scheduled to make. He was therefore released. The FO decided Bush was worth what he was scheduled to make. So, they decided to retain him for next season.

If you disagree with this decision that's fine. It's a valid opinion. But to act like it is blatantly obvious that he is making too much money and that anyone who does not agree with this is blind is amazingly arrogant. It is basically saying that your opinion is better than that of other fans here and it is better than the people making the personnel decisions for the Saints (the people who decided to pay him the money this year and lead us to the SB last year). If you really believe this, then I urge you to apply for a job in the NFL. I know the Raiders could use your help.

It's been said before, but Bush's salary was pretty much determined by his draft position. So harping on his money is a moot point. A better question regarding him is weather he should have been drafted where he was; not is he making too much. For all who want to say it was a terrible pick, just remember that there are recent picks out there that have been much worse (the two QBs picked by the Bay Area California teams come to mind quickly.)

As far as PT goes, because the thread title is about him I will mention his name and that I am very glad that he was on the team last year and I hope he is on the team for a long time.
Somebody please give St. Michael reps for this post. I tried but says I got to spread the love around first. Anyway...I really enjoyed this post.
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