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Aren't Intentions Measured by Results?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I always believed you judge what a person believes by what they actually do, not what they say. Is there any statistical evidence that we injured more players or got flagged for late or illegal hits more often than average? ...

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Old 04-09-2012, 08:46 PM   #1
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Aren't Intentions Measured by Results?

I always believed you judge what a person believes by what they actually do, not what they say. Is there any statistical evidence that we injured more players or got flagged for late or illegal hits more often than average? I'm not defending GW, but maybe there's some truth to Hugh Douglas saying everyone in the locker room knew it was just talk and no one actually targeted a head or ACL if there's no evidence we ACTUALLY caused these injuries. Of course, the two most obvious were Warner and Farve, but lets be fair, both hits were legal and both men were VERY old.

By the way, haven't checked in in a couple days, so please merge if we already talked about this.

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Old 04-09-2012, 08:54 PM   #2
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The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:56 PM   #3
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It really doesn't matter what we did, we've been punished and then appeals denied. It's over, we must move on...
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We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments.
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We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments.

I want some company in my misery! LOL

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Old 04-10-2012, 04:20 AM   #6
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We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments.

Agreed. This is far from over.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:30 AM   #7
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... I think you guys are right, this is just 'tip of the iceburg' with Goodell establishing just what level he can impose punishments on a team. The league has been put on notice and god help repeat-offenders.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:35 AM   #8
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The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did.
I'll doublecheck, but I read we were right about middle of the pack as far as personal fouls and fines go.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:13 AM   #9
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Don't try to rationalize it in any other way than an action taken by a corporation with the intention of using it as evidence in their favor when the ex-player lawsuits go to court. No more, no less.

What baffles the mind is that so many people willingly go along with the charade. So-called sports writers, fans, corporate sponsors, even some ex-players turned talking heads... Really, how can you be a sports reporter with locker room access for 20 years and not know about this stuff and that it happens everywhere? How can you be a fan of football and don't understand the mentality of the game, the violence of the game? How many more war references can a corporation make about its product, yet want people to believe there's no one actually trying to hurt the other? (so ironic that the new uniforms are the "combat" line from Nike, no? I guess they meant "combat" as in "pillow fight")

I guess this goes with the whole 'holier than thou" culture in the US: we want our celebrities and politicians to be pure, always say the right things. Same reason the porn industry is a multi-billion dllr industry but no one watches it.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:14 AM   #10
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Oops. double post.
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